Re: draft-ietf-ipsec-udp-encaps-06 comments.

[Jean-Francois Dive <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:25:38PM +0200, Jean-Francois Dive wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:33:37PM +0300, Ari Huttunen wrote:
> > Jean-Francois Dive wrote:
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I am actually busy with implementing NAT-T in IKEv1 context and found 
> > >something which may have been
> > >overlooked (or that i missed the discussion on this list). In section 
> > >3.1.2, the author talk about the
> > >procedure to follow for udp encpasulated transport mode NAT decapsulation. 
> > >I totally agress with the first point (point (a)) but think the second 
> > >point (point (b)) is totally wrong and should never be implemented as 
> > >such: it is suggested that if we dont have the original source or 
> > >destination ip addresses, the TCP/UDP checksum of the packet should be 
> > >recomputed to match the NAT'ed ip pseudo header. This cant happen as it 
> > >would make corrupted packets appears as proper packets, the checksum 
> > >"mangling"
> > >or update beeing right as a wrong checksum at the start would remain 
> > >wrong. The only proper way to deal with this would be to go with checksum 
> > >update when you have the information and no checksum at all if you dont 
> > >have the information. 
> > >Any comments ?
> > 
> > You wouldn't use ESP without authentication, would you? In transport
> > mode there's no chance that the packet contents accidentally changed
> > if the packet is authenticated. It wouldn't pass authentication checking.
> 
> consider the following:
> - packet is xmt'ed from a station.
> - hope trough a dodgy router which corrupt it.
> - Go trough the the ipsec gateway, get UDPinESP'ed.
> - Go trough a NAT gateway.
> - Arrive in the ipsec gateway, the issue raise, the authenticated
>   content never changed on the path.

ok, something slept away from my mind when coding this thing, we are in
transport mode so this is hardly going to happen....

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