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Re: [IPsec] Adoption call for draft-tjhai-ipsecme-hybrid-qske-ikev2

"Valery Smyslov" <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 05 November 2019 12:09 UTC

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From: Valery Smyslov <smyslov.ietf@gmail.com>
To: "'Guggemos, Tobias'" <guggemos@nm.ifi.lmu.de>, 'Tero Kivinen' <kivinen@iki.fi>, ipsec@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Adoption call for draft-tjhai-ipsecme-hybrid-qske-ikev2
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Hi Tobias,

> Hey,
> I also strongly support adoption.
> 
> >   It is an open question whether or not it is feasible to build a
> >   Quantum Computer (and if so, when one might be implemented), but if
> >
> > Feasibility of some quantum computer is becoming much less of an open
> > question; perhaps we want some qualifiers about efficiency, scale,
> > and/or general-purpose-nature.
> > Do we have a reference for this "it is believed", or is it just the
> > outcome of the WG discussions?
> 
> Regarding this discussion (and sorry if this was discussed before and I didn't realize).
> Do we really need the term post-quantum in the title (and maybe even in the abstract)?
> The draft tells how to do multiple/hybrid key-exchanges in IKEv2, PQ is the major motivation but not the only
> use case.
> As far as I'm familiar with the draft, you could easily do DH + ECDH with it (and if not I'd really like it be like
> that).

The title is inherited from the early versions of the draft :-)
I agree that in the current form the draft is far less restrictive
in combining KE methods and the title could (and I think should)
be modified to reflect this.

Regards,
Valery.

> 
> Regards
> Tobias
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: IPsec <ipsec-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag von Tero Kivinen
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. November 2019 23:42
> > An: ipsec@ietf.org
> > Betreff: [IPsec] Adoption call for draft-tjhai-ipsecme-hybrid-qske-ikev2
> >
> > This is adoption call for the draft-tjhai-ipsecme-hybrid-qske-ikev2
> > draft to be accepted to be WG Document. This draft has been around for
> > some time, and we have been discussing it in the meetings.
> >
> > If you support adopting this document as WG Document, then send email
> > indicating your support to the ipsec@ietf.org mailing-list. If you have any
> > comments or reservations send them to the list too.
> >
> > This adoption call finishes 2019-11-11.
> > --
> > kivinen@iki.fi
> >
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