Re: Comments on draft-ietf-6man-multicast-scopes-02

Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> Mon, 10 February 2014 17:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: Comments on draft-ietf-6man-multicast-scopes-02
From: Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
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On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:41 AM 2/10/14, Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for being late with my comments but here we go anyway.
>> 
>> I think this document is almost ready. Few comments/questions
>> though.
>> 
>> ** In Section 3:
>> 
>>  NEW:
>> 
>>    o  The boundaries of zones of a scope are defined by the IPv6
>>       addressing architecture [RFC4291].
>> 
>> Ok.. this is confusing since it is *this* I-D that updates RFC4291
>> with a new Realm-scope aware boundary, thus RFC4291 would eventually
>> point back to this I-D. So while the above change is correct it
>> definitely is confusing.
> 
> How about:
> 
>    o  The boundaries of zones of a scope are defined by the IPv6
>       addressing architecture [RFC4291] and updated by this document.

Wfm.

>> Just like with draft-ietf-6man-multicast-addr-arch-update I see a
>> need for RFC4291bis, where Section 1 like enhancements would
>> belong to rather than stacking up I-Ds that patch things here and
>> there.  Again I recon it might be too late for this, though.
> 
> In my opinion, it would be fine to start on an RFC4291bis now.  I would strongly object to holding up this document for that effort, as the definition of scop 3 is needed now for MPL.
> 
>> 
>> ** Section 5
>> 
>> What would go under the other scopes than 3? Shouldn't we say at
>> least something about the possible future use of those? Will they
>> also list RFCs? 
> 
> RFC 4291 explicitly leaves the other scopes "(unassigned)".  It would be out of scope for this document to say more about those scopes than RFC 4291.

Since this document establishes a new registry, we at least
need to define the guidelines on how future assignments are
to be made as per RFC5226.

> 
>> ** Section 7
>> 
>> I don't think it is sufficient just to refer to RFC4291 (almost non
>> existent) security considerations. For example there should be a
>> reference to RFC4007 which actually has text related to security
>> considerations of boundaries and scopes.
> 
> Good point.  I suggest:
> 
> 7.  Security Considerations
> 
>   This document has no security considerations beyond those in RFC 4007
>   [RFC4007] and RFC 4291 [RFC4291].

Wfm.

- JOuni


> 
> - Ralph
> 
>> 
>> - JOuni
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