[IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing
Kyle Ouellette <kouellette@iol.unh.edu> Thu, 31 October 2024 20:46 UTC
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From: Kyle Ouellette <kouellette@iol.unh.edu>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 16:45:23 -0400
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing
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Hi Jeremy, Yes, I see your point about the policy table. Is there harm in leaving 4291 2.5.7 more for historical purposes? New implementations shouldn't apply special behavior to the fec0::/10 prefix, but should 4291 continue to be verbose about this? As for the AA 1.5 tests, they're not fully redundant. They provide checks to ensure implementations don't interpret RFC 3879 as a "drop". Thanks, Kyle On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 1:50 PM Jeremy Duncan <jduncan@tachyondynamics.com> wrote: > Kyle- > > > > Not a problem per se. Just that if someone were to implement site local > addressing in their network, the prefix policy tables would not treat it as > global unicast addressing. It would treat it in precedence below IPv4, ULA, > etc. > > > > So I’m asking if the 6man would like to take up a full deprecation of site > local addressing to remove it from 4291 and potentially 6724. > > > > In relation to the AA 1.5 tests, if the intent is to test it as GUI, then > it’s a redundant test right? > > > > > > -Jeremy > > > > *From:* Kyle Ouellette <kouellette@iol.unh.edu> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2024 1:42 PM > *To:* Jeremy Duncan <jduncan@tachyondynamics.com> > *Cc:* ipv6@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [IPv6]RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing > > > > [EXTERNAL] Verify links and attachments with sender. > > Hi Jeremy, > > > > I'm not sure I understand the problem you're describing and how it relates > to the AA 1.5 tests. Can you provide more details on the problem you're > facing? > > > > Thanks, > Kyle > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 5:05 PM Jeremy Duncan <jduncan@tachyondynamics.com> > wrote: > > Kyle, thanks but Address Architecture test case 1.5 merely tests that site > local is being used. So an echo request and reply using it as the source. > The problem is that RFC 6724 has moved it down to precedence 1 with label > 11. So in essence a node conforming to 6724 would label it as a site local > and not a standard global unicast right? > > > > > > > > Semper Fi, > > Jeremy Duncan > > Sent from my cell > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Kyle Ouellette <kouellette@iol.unh.edu> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2024 4:49:09 PM > *To:* Jeremy Duncan <jduncan@tachyondynamics.com> > *Cc:* ipv6@ietf.org <ipv6@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [IPv6]RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing > > > > [EXTERNAL] Verify links and attachments with sender. > > Hi Jeremy, > > > > The IPv6 Ready Core tests you're referring to test that Site Local > addresses are deprecated and not supported. Specifically this statement > from 2.5.7: "The special behavior of this prefix defined in [RFC3513] must > no longer be supported in new implementations (i.e., new implementations > must treat this prefix as Global Unicast)." > > > > Thanks, > Kyle > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 4:27 PM Jeremy Duncan <jduncan= > 40tachyondynamics.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Hello 6Man- > > > > Is there any reason that Site local addressing fec0::/10 is still included > in RFC 4291? Since the deprecation was done back in RFC 3879 in 2004, it > still remains in 4291. Which also means all of the IPv6 Ready conformance > and interoperability testing still requires these test cases. > > > > Is there any appetite to get a bis/update in place to do a removal of > section 2.5.7 in RFC 4291? > > > > > > -Jeremy > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > List Info: https://mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/ipv6@ietf.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > > Kyle Ouellette > > Software Development Manager, IP Technologies > > UNH InterOperability Laboratory > > 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824 > > kouellette@iol.unh.edu > > www.iol.unh.edu > > > > > > > > -- > > Kyle Ouellette > > Software Development Manager, IP Technologies > > UNH InterOperability Laboratory > > 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824 > > kouellette@iol.unh.edu > > www.iol.unh.edu > > > > > -- Kyle Ouellette Software Development Manager, IP Technologies UNH InterOperability Laboratory 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824 kouellette@iol.unh.edu www.iol.unh.edu
- [IPv6]RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Kyle Ouellette
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Kyle Ouellette
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Kyle Ouellette
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Kyle Ouellette
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Bob Hinden
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Bob Hinden
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing David Farmer
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Tim Chown
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Brian E Carpenter
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Tim Chown
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Bob Hinden
- [IPv6]Re: RFC 4291 and Site-Local Addressing Jeremy Duncan