RE: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling
"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Fri, 24 June 2016 06:36 UTC
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling
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+1 I think that the whole point is that it is the practice in the real world. In a RPL domain, RPL nodes are configured to process the HbH header, so the change in the text does not alter the existing practice. Cheers, Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter > Sent: vendredi 24 juin 2016 04:52 > To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>; 6man@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling > > OK for me > Brian > On 22/06/2016 11:17, Bob Hinden wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This proposed change is to make the processing of HBH options optional. To > me this matches what we have in operational practice. Making that change, > reduces the need for the note about some nodes may not processing HBH > options. > > > > I support this change. > > > > Comments? > > > > Bob > > > > > >> On Jun 12, 2016, at 11:34 AM, 6man issue tracker > <trac+6man@trac.tools.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> #11: HBH header handling > >> > >> 2460bis relaxes the must to a should. And incorporates a paragraph > >> from > >> 7045 giving performance considerations. > >> The use of a _should_ process combined with a _may_ drop is not elegant. > >> The second paragraph can also be read as a licence to drop. > >> > >> After having thought about the text in draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header- > >> handling, I propose the following instead: > >> > >> OLD: > >> The exception referred to in the preceding paragraph is the Hop-by- > >> Hop Options header, which carries information that should be examined > >> and processed by every node along a packet's delivery path, including > >> the source and destination nodes. The Hop-by-Hop Options header, > >> when present, must immediately follow the IPv6 header. Its presence > >> is indicated by the value zero in the Next Header field of the IPv6 > >> header. > >> > >> It should be noted that due to performance restrictions nodes may > >> ignore the Hop-by-Hop Option header, drop packets containing a hop- > >> by-hop option header, or assign packets containing a hop-by-hop > >> option header to a slow processing path. Designers planning to use a > >> hop-by-hop option need to be aware of this likely behaviour. > >> > >> NEW: > >> The exception referred to in the preceding paragraph is the Hop-by- > >> Hop Options header, which carries information that may be examined > >> and processed by nodes along a packet's delivery path, including the > >> source and destination nodes. The Hop-by-Hop Options header, when > >> present, must immediately follow the IPv6 header. Its presence is > >> indicated by the value zero in the Next Header field of the IPv6 > >> header. > >> > >> NOTE: While RFC2460 required that all nodes must process the Hop-by- > >> Hop Options header, it is now expected that nodes only process the > >> Hop-by-Hop Options header if explicitly configured to do so. > >> > >> > >> In short replace the should we a may, making HBH options header > >> purely optional. Note that section 4.8 in 2460bis already uses a may. > >> I also suggest we remove the 7045 paragraph on performance > >> considerations, that's highly subjective. > >> > >> 3. Section 4.3 HBH > >> OLD: > >> The Hop-by-Hop Options header is used to carry optional information > >> that should be examined by every node along a packet's delivery path. > >> The Hop-by-Hop Options header is identified by a Next Header value of > >> 0 in the IPv6 header, and has the following format: > >> > >> NEW: > >> The Hop-by-Hop Options header is used to carry optional information > >> that may be examined by every node along a packet's delivery path. > >> The Hop-by-Hop Options header is identified by a Next Header value of > >> 0 in the IPv6 header, and has the following format: > >> > >> Same change as above. > >> > >> -- > >> ----------------------------------+----------------- > >> Reporter: otroan@employees.org | Owner: > >> Type: defect | Status: new > >> Priority: major | Milestone: > >> Component: rfc2460bis | Version: > >> Severity: In WG Last Call | Keywords: > >> ----------------------------------+----------------- > >> > >> Ticket URL: <https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/trac/ticket/11> > >> 6man <https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> ipv6@ietf.org > >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- Re: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling 6man issue tracker
- RE: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling Bob Hinden
- RE: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling Bob Hinden
- [6man] #11 (rfc2460bis): HBH header handling 6man issue tracker