RE: Thoughts on address selection

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Wed, 02 December 2009 17:32 UTC

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Subject: RE: Thoughts on address selection
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:32:32 -0800
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rémi Denis-Courmont [mailto:remi@remlab.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:18 AM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: Stig Venaas; Fred Baker; 
> draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-sol@tools.ietf.org; 
> draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-considerations@tools.ietf.org; 
> IETF IPv6 Mailing List; Mohacsi Janos; 
> draft-arifumi-6man-addr-select-conflict@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on address selection
> 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:19:10 -0800, "Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> >> I'm a bit worried about this. If e.g. the host is 100ms 
> >> (RTT) away and
> >> 10 combinations work, you may end up creating TCP state 
> >> (and getting
> >> syn-acks back) on the destination host for 10 connections,
> 
> > Are there servers that don't use SYN-cookies now-a-days? 
> 
> IIRC, recent Linux kernel version have SYN-cookies disabled 
> by default as they were found to make things often worse 
> rather than better.

I found this citation regarding SYN cookies, which seems to
indicate further evolution of both minisock and SYN cookies
(to support WINSCALE and SACK) in Linux, 
http://lwn.net/Articles/277146/

-d