Re: IPv6 options defined outside of 6man

t.petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Tue, 22 November 2016 10:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: IPv6 options defined outside of 6man
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:55:49 +0000
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Chown" <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: "joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com>
Cc: <ipv6@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:46 AM
>
> > On 21 Nov 2016, at 09:48, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> > Registry policies are established at the creation of the registry
> >
> > in the case of
> >
> > IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Option Formats
> >
> > The Registration Procedure is
> >
> > IETF RFC publication
> >
> > for
> >
> > DHCPv6 Option Codes
> >
> > Expert Review and Standards Action
> >
> > Area directors and iana review are expected to hew to requirements
> > specified in the registries and the doucments which created them.
> >
> > Standards track documents may of course amend the procedures
associated
> > with a registry.
>
> So, I guess the question for 6man is whether "Expert Review and
Standards Action” should also formally be required for new IPv6 Neighbor
Discovery Option Formats?  Even if it seems to be common practice at the
moment.  Something to consider when 4861-bis comes up.

I see 'Expert Review' as something of a political solution to a
technical problem.  It requires that an expert be found, a backup expert
when the first is busy, the maintenance of the list of experts over a
spell of several years when, mostly, the IETF does not have an obvious
source of expertise (such as a WG).  All of which places a further
burden on ADs and the IESG, which, naturally, I expect them to resist.
Note too that 'Expert Review' comes just above First-Come First-Served
in the IANA heirarchy and below anything involving an RFC so the role is
a relatively weak one, and probably inappropriate for a core protocol.
And while it is meant to be open, I see it as often being secretive - it
is there for IANA's benefit, not for that of the IETF.

If there is a WG, and if the WG is a process rather than project one,
e.g. TCPM or IDR, then I think that the WG is the better place to go.

Tom Petch

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