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Re: [IPv6] next steps for draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-over-wireless

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
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Whao, Brian. I do like it as well.

The only little thing is closeness with Secure ND. 

But yes SND is now nb 1 in my list. 

All the best,

Pascal

> Le 11 juin 2023 à 07:14, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> On 09-Jun-23 20:03, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
>> Dear all:
>> I republished applying the below.
>> Since WiND (RFC 8505, 8928, 8929, more coming with xcast and prefix registration) are part of ND I might have created inconsistencies in the process. Please let me know if the reader can get confused.
>> And then, I’m still after a way to call things with the WiND extensions.
>> 1. Do we keep the term WiND?
> 
> It's nice, but it embeds "Wireless" and that sounds like an unintended restriction.
> 
>> 2)   If not, what else?
>> a) ND for NBMA?
>> b) Stateful ND?
>> c) ND registration?
>> d) other?
>> Suggestions welcome,
> 
> Firstly, let me say that "SGP" seems to me the most important acronym and concept in the model. We've really needed that ever since "NBMA" was coined.
> 
> So I quite like "SND" but interpreted as "Subnet Neighbor Discovery".
> 
>   Brian
> 
>> Pascal
>> *From:* ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Bob Hinden
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2023 7:53 PM
>> *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> *Cc:* Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>; Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPv6] next steps for draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-over-wireless
>> Pascal,
>>    >  Also, please replace "ND classic" with "Neighbor Discovery" everywhere. There is no such thing as "ND classic". There  is only ND.
>>    There’s RFC 4861-4862 on the one hand and RFC 6775-8505 on the other. They are all ND. This document needs a term that points on the former group, and one that points of the registration extensions. So the document defines ND-Classic for the purpose of naming the former. The alternate would be to change ND classic to RFC 4861-RFC 4862 throughout. What’s best for the reader?
>> My personal view is that it would better to say “Neighbor Discovery” to describe base protocol (RFC 4861-4862) and find a different term for extensions that have been done for other environments.   Saying “ND Classic” is a bit pejorative.
>> Bob
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