RE: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-01

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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com>, SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-01
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Pablo,

Section 4.19 is a bit vague.

In the document, you say that an application can bind to an IPv6 address / SID pair. Does this application have to reside on the SRv6 egress node? Or can the application  reside on and segment egress node? I believe the application can reside on any segment egress node, but I may be wrong.

Does the IP stack duplicate the packet, forwarding one copy and sending the other to the binding application?  Or does the IP stack send the one and only copy of the packet to the binding application? I believe that the IP stack sends the one and only copy of the packet to the binding application, but I may be wrong.

The document says that the binding application can modify the SRH. Can it modify anything else? The payload? Can it respond to the source, as if it were the ultimate destination?


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From: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) <pcamaril@cisco.com>
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To: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>; 6man@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-01

Ron,

Sections 4.19 introduces how an SRv6 SID may be bound with a service instruction as introduced in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402#section-1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402*section-1__;Iw!8WoA6RjC81c!XD4lktBxHTm-DwE_6Jf8qvZRC6KijA0TcUhSFBVeNYn8idkxN8PgcWNpg7tlmeYf$>
Section 4.20 provides an informative reference on how to bind a service instruction with non-SR-aware applications.

Cheers,
Pablo.

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>>
Date: Friday, 6 September 2019 at 06:44
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Subject: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-01

Authors,

Section 4 of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network programming has the title "Functions associated with a SID". Sections 4..1 through 4.18 enumerate functions that can be associated with a SID, as one would expect.

Sections 4.19 and 4.20 talk about something unrelated (SR-aware applications and Non-SR-aware applications).

Section 4.19 is vague, but sounds like it might allow transport layer information to be encoded in IPv6 addresses. You might want to clarify this.

                                                                                                  Ron




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