[IPv6]Re: [Snac] Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt>

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Fri, 03 April 2026 20:52 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, "mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, Jonathan Hui <jonhui@google.com>
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Subject: [IPv6]Re: [Snac] Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt>
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Jonathan,

What do you think about Med's text suggestion ?

-éric

From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Friday, 3 April 2026 at 10:44
To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>, snac@ietf.org <snac@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Snac] Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt>

Your proposed changes look good to me FWIW.

On 3 Apr 2026, at 08:47, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:

Hi all,

Exactly what Éric said.

As a disclaimer, note that I’m interested in resolving this in a timely manner as we have a V6OPS document approved recently and which has a dependency on draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update, which in turn depends on draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag. So, thanks to Éric for his effort to uncluster these docs.

I see that the authors of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag already published a new revision but I’m afraid more changes are needed. As currently written, the document suggests that the description of what is a SNAC router is out of the scope, points that readers should refer to simple I-D for security threats, etc., which make simple snac still look like normative (even if it is listed as Info).

My suggestion is to reposition the main contribution of draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag to defining a signal that allows to identify a SNAC router. Given its intended BCP status, simple doc is positioned as an approach to illustrate practices for enabling connectivity automation. For interop, all what we need the interpretation of the flag.

An attempt to help with tweaking the text to have a document that is independent of snac-simple can be found here:

  *   pdf: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2026/draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04-rev%20Med.pdf
  *   doc: https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2026/draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-04-rev%20Med.doc


I can copy/paste the proposed changes here as well, if needed.

Cheers,
Med

De : Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Objet : [IPv6]Re: [Snac] Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt>


Michael,

Bob is correct, the IESG decided yesterday to strictly follow the process but redoing the WGLC, IETF Last Call, IESG evaluation for this 4-page draft.

BTW, it is more than 2 documents as you may remember that snap-simple (not yet WGLC) has normative reference to DNSSD drafts... I.e., the whole cluster is potentially with 6 drafts with some of them not moving forward quickly.

Hope this clarifies things,

Regards

-éric

From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com<mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, 3 April 2026 at 01:00
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com<mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com>>, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com<mailto:evyncke@cisco.com>>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org<mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>>,jonhui@google.com<mailto:jonhui@google.com> <jonhui@google.com<mailto:jonhui@google.com>>, snac@ietf.org<mailto:snac@ietf.org> <snac@ietf.org<mailto:snac@ietf.org>>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com<mailto:mellon@fugue.com>>
Subject: Re: [Snac] Datatracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-6man-snac-router-ra-flag-03.txt>
Michael,

On Apr 2, 2026, at 1:06 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>> wrote:

Signed PGP part

Eric Vyncke \(evyncke\) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
You may be aware of a big cluster of IESG-approved drafts in 6MAN &
V6OPS WGs https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C525 This
MISSREF cluster prevents publication until all missing references are
also approved (i.e., including draft-ietf-snac-simple).

Big? two documents waiting for ra-flag.  Nothing happened to the document in 2025.

I see Jonathan Hui has submitted an update.  Doesn't that unblock things?

That is the intent.

But as I understand it, the IESG would like 6MAN to do a w.g. last call to confirm there is still a concensus in the working group for this change.

Bob




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