Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-03.txt
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Subject: Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-03.txt
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> If we keep "statistically different," I suggest removing the parentheses > and defining it as: "having high likelihood to be different, e.g. 99% of > the time." > (That it is a value we used in our aforementioned manuscript to define > "plausibly random"... Other percentage values are fine.) I think that with a length of at least (say) 40 bits and at most 64, we can go for something more ambitious. Even 40 bits is about 10**12. (No prize for mentioning the birthday paradox. We're talking about the probability of one particular IID matching another.) Regards Brian On 24/03/2018 03:24, Dave Plonka wrote: > Yes, this looks good, Fernando. > > Thanks for doing this work for the community. I particularly like that > everything here supports the "kIP" IPv6 address anonymisation work we > presented in MAPRG, e.g., to help with EU's GDPR. > > I will think more about what we might say instead of "(statistically) > different," and let you know if I come up with somethings non-parenthetical > that clearly captures what (I think) we mean by this. > > Does "probably different" work, in anyone's opinion? > > Regardless of whether we use "statistically" or something else, we should > be able to define this oft-used phrase in the draft itself. > > If we keep "statistically different," I suggest removing the parentheses > and defining it as: "having high likelihood to be different, e.g. 99% of > the time." > (That it is a value we used in our aforementioned manuscript to define > "plausibly random"... Other percentage values are fine.) > > Thanks, > Dave > > A unit/ typo? "Temporary address (e.g., a temporary address)." > > On Mar 21, 2018 9:16 AM, "Fernando Gont" <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> We've published a revision of our I-D: >> <https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gont- >> 6man-non-stable-iids-03.txt> >> >> It incorporates a number of clarifications in response to Dave Plonka's >> feedback. >> >> Dave: Please do let us know if you're happy with this rev. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Best regards, >> Fernando >> >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man-non-stable- >> iids-03.txt >> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 01:23:26 -0700 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Madeleine Garcia Corbo <madelen.garcia16@gmail.com>, Christian >> Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, >> Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>, Madelen Corbo >> <madelen.garcia16@gmail.com>, Guillermo Gont <ggont@si6networks.com> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-03.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Fernando Gont and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids >> Revision: 03 >> Title: Recommendation on Temporary IPv6 Interface Identifiers >> Document date: 2018-03-21 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 11 >> URL: >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gont-6man-non- >> stable-iids-03.txt >> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids/ >> Htmlized: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-03 >> Htmlized: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids >> Diff: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-03 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies a set of requirements for generating >> temporary addresses, and clarifies the stability requirements for >> IPv6 addresses, allowing for the use of only temporary addresses. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >
- Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-6man… Fernando Gont
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Fernando Gont
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Dave Plonka
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Fernando Gont
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Fernando Gont
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-… Fernando Gont
- draft-gont-6man-non-stable-iids-04 Brian E Carpenter