Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-comp-rtg-hdr-00.txt

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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
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Brian,

Good point! Could this issue be addressed by adding the following text to the beginning of the Security Considerations Section:

"In this document, a node that processes the CRH is in the same trust domain as another node if one of the following is true:

- Both nodes are operated by the same party.
- Each node is operated by a different party and the two parties maintain a special trust agreement with regard to the CRH."

                                                                                     Ron


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Hi,

I am a bit puzzled. The vague referemce to a limited domain has gone, which is fine. But the only thing that relates to that issue is a statement in the Security Considerations that:

"... nodes MUST discard packets containing the CRH when both of the following conditions are true:

The Source Address does not identify an interface on a trusted node.

The Destination Address identifies an interface on the local node."

The term "trusted node" is not defined; in fact there is no discussion whatever of the trust model and how trust is established (and how forged source addresses are avoided). I think the chances of this draft surviving a Security Area review are very small.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 21-Nov-23 14:28, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-6man-comp-rtg-hdr-00.txt is now available.
> It is a work item of the IPv6 Maintenance (6MAN) WG of the IETF.
>
>     Title:   The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH)
>     Authors: Ron Bonica
>              Yuji Kamite
>              Andrew Alston
>              Daniam Henriques
>              Luay Jalil
>     Name:    draft-ietf-6man-comp-rtg-hdr-00.txt
>     Pages:   15
>     Dates:   2023-11-20
>
> Abstract:
>
>     This document describes an experiment in which two new IPv6 Routing
>     headers are implemented and deployed.  Collectively, they are called
>     the Compact Routing Headers (CRH).  Individually, they are called
>     CRH-16 and CRH-32.
>
>     One purpose of this experiment is to demonstrate that the CRH can be
>     implemented and deployed in a production network.  Another purpose is
>     to demonstrate that the security considerations, described in this
>     document, can be addressed with access control lists.  Finally, this
>     document encourages replication of the experiment.
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