Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 17 April 2017 20:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net>, draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis@ietf.org, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>, IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, 6man Chairs <6man-chairs@ietf.org>
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 18/04/2017 04:15, C. M. Heard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> Do we have any evidence that the guidance in RFC 3168 regarding
>>> reassembling IPv6 fragments is implemented?  I don’t know, but think if
>>> it there is evidence I agree some text should be added to rfc2460bis, if
>>> not, then maybe not.
>>
>> In any case, somebody needs to submit an erratum for RFC 3168, since it
>> lacks "Updates: 2460".
> 
> I started to do that and then noticed that RFC 3168 also lacks "Updates: 791".
> Instead, RFC 3168 updates RFC 2474, which in turn obsoletes RFC 1349, which
> in turn updates RFC 791 (and several other IPv4 RFCs). But RFC 2474 itself
> lacks "Updates: 2460". So maybe the erratum should be filed against RFC 2474.
> On the other hand, all that RFC 2460 Section 7 does with respect to the
> Traffic Class field is to define a set of general requirements and defer all
> the details to future RFCs. So tt's not clear to me whether RFC 2474 does, in
> fact, update RFC 2460. I'll leave the decision on whether to file the erratum
> to someone else who has better skills at navigating these tangled webs.

RFC 2474 adds to RFC 2460; it doesn't change any of the behaviour defined by
2460, so it isn't IMHO a case for "Updates". If we had a tag "Extends", then
"Extends: 2460" would be appropriate.

RFC 3168 changes the RFC 2460 algorithm for reassembly, so IMHO it's an "Updates: 2460".

    Brian