RE: Fwd: Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

Alan Kavanagh <alan.kavanagh@ericsson.com> Wed, 11 November 2009 16:01 UTC

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From: Alan Kavanagh <alan.kavanagh@ericsson.com>
To: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com>, "Dunn, Jeffrey H." <jdunn@mitre.org>, "Wes Beebee (wbeebee)" <wbeebee@cisco.com>, Antonio Querubin <tony@lava.net>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:00:58 -0500
Subject: RE: Fwd: Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security
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The ND-Proxy has been presented in BBF but this does not solve the problem of Duplicate Address Issue in an N:! VLAN deployed model for BBF Architecture. 

Alan

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Subject: RE: Fwd: Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

So have I and Wes been able to close the issue for the DSL Forum folks?  Implement ND Proxy at your first-hop IPv6 router/access concentrator.  

Thanks,

Hemant

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Subject: RE: Fwd: Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

Jeffrey,

The answer to your question is a yes.  Alternatively, the ISP may just dole out a delegated prefix shorter than a /64 and the CPE Rtr has to live with it but the ISP may use something like a /55 that gives sufficient number of links in the home LAN.  I will reply to any more discussion on this thread once I reach Hiroshima. 

Hemant

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Subject: RE: Fwd: Broadband Forum liaison to IETF on IPv6 security

OK. Then the CPE router has a unique /64 for all of its broadcast domains? Does that mean that the customer needs to tell the ISP how many /64 prefixes they need?

Best Regards, 
  
Jeffrey Dunn
Info Systems Eng., Lead
MITRE Corporation.
(301) 448-6965 (mobile)


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