Re: Dumb question about routing headers

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Sun, 24 May 2020 21:22 UTC

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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 07:21:50 +1000
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Subject: Re: Dumb question about routing headers
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On Mon, 25 May 2020, 07:06 Brian E Carpenter, <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is a routing header whose final destination is a multicast address, but
> whose previous segments are all unicast, valid?
>


A related question is are multicast addresses within the list if hops to
visit valid?

I thought it might not be because you could create a worse version of the
RFC 5095 attack.

However, I think the multicast forwarding RPF check prevents that working,
so a multicast addresses anywhere in an RH set of hops could be valid.

Haven't thought of a use for it though.

Regards,
Mark.


> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
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