Re: What's 16 bits between friends?
Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> Tue, 18 September 2007 13:18 UTC
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From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:15:59 +0200
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Subject: Re: What's 16 bits between friends?
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On 18-sep-2007, at 9:00, briand@ca.afilias.info wrote: >> If your point is that 64 bits exceeds 48 bits, yes, but 48 bits >> doesn't meet the felt need. If it's not, then where are you going >> with the question? > Yes, that was where I was going, by way of the selection of EUI-64 > as II. > In its current incarnation (which seems to be unchanging), EUI-64 is > essentially MAC-48 with an extra 16 bits in the middle, which are > fixed > in value to "FFFE" (base 16). If adding 16 extra bits makes sure that discussions about address conservation don't need to happen, it's bits well spent. But apparently it didn't work, because now we have discussions about too many bits... I suggest that there are only two reasonable approaches: 1. keep things the way they are now 2. move to variable length addresses I'm assuming that we'll be doing 1. for quite some time and move to 2. afterwards. But any efforts to redistribute bits within the 128 that we have today or to change to a different fixed length just use up time, effort and money for no benefit whatsoever. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- RE: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Bernie Volz (volz)
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- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… Masataka Ohta
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- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… Ralph Droms
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 James Carlson
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… David W. Hankins
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 tom.petch
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… james woodyatt
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Masataka Ohta
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- RE: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 michael.dillon
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Mark Andrews
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… James Carlson
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- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… James Carlson
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… David W. Hankins
- Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 Ignatios Souvatzis
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… James Carlson
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… David W. Hankins
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… David W. Hankins
- RE: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 TJ
- RE: prefix length determination for DHCPv6 TJ
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Templin, Fred L
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
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- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… James Carlson
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- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… james woodyatt
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- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… james woodyatt
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: on-link determination and DHCP6 james woodyatt
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Michael W. Oliver
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length dete… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … James Carlson
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: prefix length determination for D… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… Masataka Ohta
- Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … Iljitsch van Beijnum
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- RE: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … Bernie Volz (volz)
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- Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … James Carlson
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… Shane Kerr
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: pr… Ralph Droms
- RE: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] RE: prefix length determination for D… james woodyatt
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: pr… David W. Hankins
- Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length … Mark Smith
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- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… briand
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- RE: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… TJ
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… briand
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Mark Smith
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Scott Leibrand
- RE: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… michael.dillon
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- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Mark Smith
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Mark Andrews
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- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: History of autoconfig RFCs and siblings, plea… Brian E Carpenter
- What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Fred Baker
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? briand
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? briand
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Ignatios Souvatzis
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? John Day
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Bob Hinden
- RE: What's 16 bits between friends? Christian Huitema
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jeroen Massar
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- RE: What's 16 bits between friends? Christian Huitema
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- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? james woodyatt
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- RE: What's 16 bits between friends? michael.dillon
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Mark Smith
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jim Jackson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Dickson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Mark Smith
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Jim Jackson
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? Brian Haberman
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? james woodyatt
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? David Conrad
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- Re: What's 16 bits between friends? David Conrad
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