Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Tue, 04 August 2009 13:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue
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From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:08:32 -0400
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>>>>> "Marshall" == Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> writes: Marshall> Dear Brian; Marshall> On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Lars, >> >> It seems to me that it would not violate the spirit of RFC2460 >> if we added a rule that stacks MUST follow the RFC2460 rule by >> default but MAY deviate from it for duly configured tunnel end >> points in routers (where "router" is strictly as defined in >> section 2 of 2460 and the Note in that section). That would >> fully preserve the requirement as far as hosts and applications >> go. >> This was exactly the intention of Marshall> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eubanks-chimento-6man-00 Marshall> We intend to rev this shortly and comments would be Marshall> appreciated. Margaret brought up a set of questions for LISP if it's going to send 0 UDP checksums, basically surrounding what happens when a packet on such a tunnel is corrupted and gets received by a node that either does or does not understand the tunneling protocol. One of these questions hinged on the expected behavior of receivers seeing a 0 UDP checksum. I suggest that your draft 1) Indicate whether receivers should be specially configured to accept 0 checsums or whether all stacks should accept 0 checksums. 2) Adapt her questions as questions that IETF specs considering this exception need to answer to make sure that their protocol will work correctly in this mode. --Sam
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- RE: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue byzek
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Pekka Savola
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Fred Baker
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Benny Amorsen
- RE: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Rémi Després
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Brian E Carpenter
- Flow label redux [Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum is… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Vince Fuller
- Re: Flow label redux [Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Pekka Savola
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue byzek
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Flow label redux [Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksu… Hesham Soliman
- Flow label collision [Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Flow label collision [Flow label redux [Re: I… Pekka Savola
- Re: Flow label collision [Flow label redux [Re: I… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- RE: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- RE: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Flow label collision [Flow label redux [Re: I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- RE: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… David Malone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux sthaug
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Gorry Fairhurst