Re: [ipwave] 802.11bd D1.0 preliminary spec available somewhere?

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 10 September 2020 09:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] 802.11bd D1.0 preliminary spec available somewhere?
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Le 10/09/2020 à 09:18, Dick Roy a écrit :
> Hi Alex,
> 
> FYI ... there is very little if anything in any IEEE 802 LAN 
> specification that in any way specifies or constrains what happens
> in any network layer protocol.  (W)LANs operate at layer 2 and
> below. IPvx is functionality at layer 3.

True enough.

However, when looking at details of the specs, it might that 802.11
documents do use the words 'IP' and 'IPv6' in particular.  Last time I
looked at an 802.11 spec I was successful in searching and finding the
word IPv6.  That was some years ago.

Now the situation is different.  The word should be there, but it should
cite [RFC 8691] in the case of OCB operation of 802.11.

I mean, if the word 'IPv6' is there in the 802.11bd document, then it
makes no sense to not cite RFC 8691.

If the word 'IPv6' is not there in the 802.11bd document, then indeed it
makes sense to not cite RFC 8691.

(I would be tempted to suggest the same to ISO TC204 documents but I
know you will not agree because I know in your thought this RFC8691 does
not fully address one's expectations of fully variable wireless
environments of automobile networks; so I dont suggest it for ISO TC 204).

Yours,

Alex

> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> RR
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020
> 12:08 AM To: John Kenney Cc: IPWAVE WG Subject: Re: [ipwave] 802.11bd
> D1.0 preliminary spec available somewhere?
> 
> Hi, John,
> 
> Thank you for the reply.
> 
> Does the document mention the word 'IPv6'? (RFC8691?)
> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 09/09/2020 à 23:41, John Kenney a écrit :
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> No, this is a work in progress, scheduled to be completed later 
>> this month. It will be a draft standard. Unless a decision is made 
>> to make it available for sale, it will only be available to IEEE 
>> 802.11 WG voting members.
>> 
>> Best Regards, John
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 5:49 AM Alexandre Petrescu 
>> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am looking for the IEEE 802.11bd D1.0 preliminary spec.  Is it 
>> available somewhere I could look at it?
>> 
>> It is to see whether, hopefully, it cites RFC8691 for IPv6 use.
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
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