Re: [ipwave] Protocols and Architectures for Traffic Lights
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 03 July 2019 09:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Protocols and Architectures for Traffic Lights
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excuse me being at the risk of disturbing the group with my personal notes; I promiss you I ponder maybe I will write a draft about this... In Scandinavian countries the protocol to communicate to traffic lights controllers is RSMP with a spec on github. (provided by person at gov't organisaiton through a doc called CEN/TC 278/WG 17 N 207). So the current list of protocols to communicate to traffic lights controllers is: NTCIP (US), UTMC (UK), DIASER (FR), RSMP (Nordic), OCIT (D), IVERA (NL), ISO PRESTO 22951. The SPAT/MAP/SRM/SSM are a whole different class of things. The translation between these two classes is what brings latency. This is what makes that the color of the light a human sees on smartphone or dashboard can be different (even if just for a few moments) from the color of the light seen on reality. Implementers of apps of 'virtual' such colors of traffic lights on smartphones/dashboards are Dynniq, probably NeoGLS, and a colleague. Alex Le 25/06/2019 à 18:22, Alexandre PETRESCU a écrit : > I got more enlightenment from a recognised expert. > > In France, in addition to DIASER there is also LCR protocol for Traffic > Lights. > > In UK there is UTMC protocol. > > NTCIP is acknowledged as a protocol in USA. Further, it may be > implemented by Thales, a French company. > > -- > Alexandre Petrescu > alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, tél 0169089223 > > Le 06/06/2019 à 17:18, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : >> >> For further completeness... >> >> The Dutch version of protocols for Traffic Lights Controllers, in >> addition to IVERA also include iVRI, on the web at >> https://www.crow.nl/thema-s/verkeersmanagement/landelijke-ivri-standaarden >> >> The German OCIT protocol is on the web at www.ocit.org >> >> I continue to wonder what is the protocol used for communicating with >> Traffic Lights Controllers in Italy, and in America? >> >> Alex >> >> Le 06/06/2019 à 05:13, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : >>> >>> For completeness, >>> >>> >>> The complete list of protocols to communication to Traffic Lights >>> Controllers is: DIASER, IVERA, OCIT. >>> >>> Because I learn in Germany and the Czech Republic, the OCIT protocol >>> (not DIASER) may be used for communication to Traffic Lights >>> Controller, with some implementations from Siemens and from Cross. >>> Not known whether OCIT works on IP, and on IPv6. >>> >>> DIASER is known to work on RS232, TCP and UDP. Seen on IPv4; not >>> known on IPv6. SEA is a traffic lights controller manufacturer in >>> France that produces some, implements DIASER too. There are about 10 >>> manufacturers in France (Aximum of Colas, Fareco of Fayat, Lacroix, >>> SEA, others?), all doing DIASER. >>> >>> Basically, if one wants a car to talk to traffic lights controllers >>> with low latenccy, one wants to put 3 protocols in that car. >>> >>> >>> Le 29/01/2019 à 15:04, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : >>>> >>>> Protocols and Architectures for Traffic Lights >>>> Januay 29th, 2019 >>>> >>>> >>>> DIASER: a protocol used to communicate to Traffic Lights controllers. >>>> Used in France. Specified by AFNOR. Closed and paying specification. >>>> Works on hardware platforms from Lacroix (model Traffy) and Aximum >>>> (model Maestro), and probably others. Works on serial and on UDP/IP. >>>> Example queries are: "DZ" to reset, "Ck" and "CJ" to query the current >>>> color of lights, C# and CU to get the time spent in a color. >>>> >>>> API WIM 7101, RSGC2: proprietary API interfaces used by organisation >>>> NEAVIA of organisation Lacroix in France; it is used to provide access >>>> to data of traffic lights controllers. It can be used with DIASER in >>>> a sequence way: a gateway converts from one to another. >>>> >>>> ISO PRESTO 22951: a protocol to communicate with traffic lights >>>> controller, to obtain priority for special vehicles. >>>> >>>> SPAT/SSM/SRM: protocols used by future traffic lights controllers; >>>> specified by SAE in J2735. The 2009 version is freely available, >>>> whereas the 2016 (non retro-compatible) is paying 100 USD, >>>> approximative. SPAT is Signal Phase and Timing, whereas SRM is Signal >>>> Request Message. >>>> >>>> SPAT-EM: an European version of SPAT, specified by ETSI, which >>>> encapsulates SPAT. Free access, but SPAT still paying (free >>>> encapsulated paying). >>>> >>>> IVERA: a protocol used in Netherlands to communicate with Traffic >>>> Lights controllers. Potentially VLOG is also such a protocol. >>>> >>>> 3G Segnaletica: an organisation in Italy that provides hardware for >>>> controllers for traffic lights. Also has models carried in 'mobile' >>>> traffic lights. It provides a Raspberry Pi to access the traffic >>>> lights data. The Raspberry Pi uses an API to access the controller >>>> status. That API uses HTTP. >>>> >>>> Siemens: is an organisation that probably provides hardware for >>>> traffic lights controllers to be used in America (USA). >>>> >>>> Architectures: sketches drawing controller, tri-light bulbs, Internet, >>>> 802.11-OCB, car, API, SPAT. >>>> >>>> Acknowledgements: Daniele Brevi, Bart Netten, Stephane Goeuriot, Sri >>>> Gundavelli, Bruno Cabon, Paul Thorpe. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
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