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Re: [jose] #20: Shorter names for JSON serialization

Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> Tue, 07 May 2013 21:42 UTC

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From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
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Subject: Re: [jose] #20: Shorter names for JSON serialization
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What about "iv" and "tag"?  For the other names, I'd actually prefer staying with those that are full words rather than those that are abbreviations of words, since they're more descriptive.  But I agree that "initialization_vector" and "authentication_tag" were overkill.

                                                            -- Mike

From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rlb@ipv.sx]
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To: Jim Schaad
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Subject: Re: [jose] #20: Shorter names for JSON serialization

Even that's the name for the corresponding field in CMS AuthEnvelopedData and AuthenticatedData?


On Monday, May 6, 2013, Jim Schaad wrote:
I would be againist calling the authentication_tag mac.  I don't object to
something like AuthTag.  It is not necessarily a MAC in all cases so calling
it one make thing problematical - much like calling a mac a sig.

Jim


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> Subject: [jose] #20: Shorter names for JSON serialization
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> #20: Shorter names for JSON serialization
>
>  I noticed as I was doing some programming with the JSON syntax for
JWE/JWS
> that the current field names in the JSON format are unnecessarily
> cumbersome.  Nobody in the real world names a variable
>  "initialization_vector", it's "iv".   Proposed changes:
>
>  || OLD                     || NEW  ||
>  || signatures              || sigs ||
>  || signature               || sig  ||
>  || payload                 || data ||
>  || recipients              || keys ||
>  || ciphertext              || data ||
>  || initialization_vector   || iv   ||
>  || authentication_tag      || mac  ||
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>  Reporter:  rlb@ipv.sx<mailto:rlb@ipv.sx>   |      Owner:  draft-ietf-jose-json-web-
>      Type:  defect       |  encryption@tools.ietf.org<javascript:;>
>  Priority:  minor        |     Status:  new
> Component:  json-web-    |  Milestone:
>   encryption             |    Version:
>  Severity:  -            |   Keywords:
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