Re: [jose] Comments on draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00

Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com> Thu, 24 December 2015 05:46 UTC

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 07:46:43 +0200
From: Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [jose] Comments on draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 08:14:59AM +0100, Anders Rundgren wrote:
> On 2015-12-23 07:46, Ilari Liusvaara wrote:
> 
> >>* Section 2:  If you don't like the terms crv and x, perhaps you should
> >>seriously think about using different names for these fields.  That is the
> >>feeling I am getting from the Note in this section.
> >
> >The draft originally did use different names, but various people in the
> >WG wanted those to be "crv" and "x", damn what that impiles about the
> >meaning.
> 
> Just for my (some primitive) understanding: The targeted algorithms do not
> represent curves of some kind?  

None of Ed25519, Ed25519ph, Ed448, Ed448ph, X25519 and X448 is a curve,
those all are diffie-hellman algorithms or signature algorithms.

> If not why calling the draft *-curves-*?

Those algorithms are the pracical applications of the CFRG ECC work
to JOSE (the direct curves don't have much use[1])


[1] I do know only one spec (HTTP auth type) that could use the raw
curves themselves.


-Ilari