Re: [Json-canon] Proposed Charter

On 2019-01-24 23:42, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> I'm primarily concerned that people will want to invite new subtypes, e.g. "base64'd binary in a string." A good charter would make that clearly in or out of scope.

Aah, is that what you meant!  Well, interpretation of data in strings is for sure out of scope.  We'll find some way to express this.  Thanx.

As Allan Thomson just mentioned, people indeed encode a lot of things inside of strings and this works just fine, the canonicalizer only see a string.

thanx,
Anders

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> Cheers,
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>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 2:40 pm, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 2019-01-24 23:14, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>>> I saw that, but it wasn't clear whether that was a starting point, or a limit.
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>> It is the current proposal/definition.  It limits the JSON Number type to IEEE-754 double precision (=strict I-JSON).
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>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rundgren-json-canonicalization-scheme-03#section-3.2.2.3
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>> Do you think this should be in the charter?
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>> thanx,
>> Anders
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>>> Cheers,
>>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 2:06 pm, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 2019-01-24 22:55, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>>>>> Will the Working Group limit itself to canonicalising the data model that's described by JSON's native data types (object, array, number, string, boolean, null), or will it attempt to canonicalise subtypes -- for example, inside strings (whether they be key or value)?
>>>>
>>>> It is possible that I misunderstand your question but the charter talks about using
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>>>> "...the serialization methods for JSON primitives defined by EcmaScript version 6"
>>>>
>>>> which means that strings and numbers are normalized (null and boolean already have a fixed form).
>>>>
>>>> Is this the explanation you miss?
>>>>
>>>> thanx,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>> I'd be much more comfortable if this were addressed explicitly in the charter.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 10:56 am, Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is a proposed charter for this WG.  Please send any comments on this charter to this email list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### BEGIN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) is a text format for the serialization of structured data described in RFC 8259. The JSON format is often used for serializing and transmitting structured data over a network connection. With the increased usage of JSON in protocols in the IETF and elsewhere, there is now a need to define a canonical representation of JSON objects to enable comparison operations and security services on plain text JSON.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Different proposals for providing such security services have already been defined and implemented. The goal of the Working Group is to define and standardize a mechanism for creating a canonical representation of plain text JSON objects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This group is chartered to work on the following deliverable:
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>>>>>> - A Standards Track document specifying a canonical representation of JSON data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to promote interoperability and ease of implementation, the current proposal builds on I-JSON (RFC 7493), the serialization methods for JSON primitives defined by EcmaScript version 6, and a platform-independent method for sorting object properties.  By doing that, JSON parsers will not need modifications, enabling the described mechanism to ultimately be reduced to an option in JSON serializers.
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>>>>>> The proposed work-item is tentatively named JSON Canonicalization Scheme (JCS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ### END
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bret
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