Re: [Json] Minimal edit proposal, second round

"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com> Wed, 26 June 2013 18:24 UTC

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From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com>
To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Thread-Topic: [Json] Minimal edit proposal, second round
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Subject: Re: [Json] Minimal edit proposal, second round
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If we have a path forward on JSON+ (or JSON- for that matter), then I
guess I could be ok with this change as a step toward that.  However, I
won't be +1 on the minimal set of known-broken changes until I see the
path for how we're going to get *that* doc completed.

However, I'd almost rather declare defeat on the current charter and skip
to writing the doc that I thought we were signing up for.

On 6/26/13 2:15 PM, "Tim Bray" <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

>Yeah, but our charter clearly doesn¹t let us fix JSON.  What we need is
>to do something like this, then re-charter to produce a doc that provides
>real guidance, so that, as someone in this thread pointed out, other
>Working Groups will have something
> to point to and won¹t, as is currently happening in Jose, have to write
>explicit language forbidding dupes, etc, into their drafts.  So I¹m in
>favor of doing this minimal point-out-the-problems work and moving on. -T
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>On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
><jhildebr@cisco.com> wrote:
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>On 6/26/13 11:47 AM, "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
>
>>First, the proposal is an alternative to the proposals so far in the WG,
>>not in addition to them. That is, the list of changes in the proposal
>>would be the *entire* set of changes; even the current document title
>>remains the same.
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>With that clarification, I'm full -1.  Someone else will just have to fix
>the problems in 4627ter one day, and they're not going to have any easier
>of a time doing it that today.
>
>There's hard work ahead.  We're the right people for the job.  Let's stop
>trying to avoid our duty.
>
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>Joe Hildebrand
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