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Re: [kitten] WGLC for three "bis" documents: draft-ietf-kitten-rfc4402bis-00, draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-01, draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis-00

Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> Fri, 06 February 2015 00:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [kitten] WGLC for three "bis" documents: draft-ietf-kitten-rfc4402bis-00, draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-01, draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis-00
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On 02/05/2015 07:04 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
> One problem is that if the app "have already written extra code to
> generate that token and send it", now it will send it twice.

How would an app generate its own GSSAPI error token?  Surely it would
have to have intimate knowledge of the mech in order to do so.

> Stream methods are not used by many. So most people would have to
> rewrite their apps to make use of this feature.

Fair enough.

If, considering all of the arguments given thus far, you still feel that
it's better for the stream methods to be consistent with the byte
methods, I don't have any strong objection to keeping it the way it is.

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