Re: [kitten] Freshness Security Considerations for minimum/maximum size

Michiko Short <michikos@microsoft.com> Fri, 16 December 2016 19:33 UTC

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From: Michiko Short <michikos@microsoft.com>
To: "Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP" <hbhotz@oxy.edu>, Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Freshness Security Considerations for minimum/maximum size
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That could work on the KDC side. The client cannot. It does not know what is in the token or even have support for the etype that protects it.

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From: Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP [mailto:hbhotz@oxy.edu] 
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To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>
Cc: Michiko Short <michikos@microsoft.com>; kitten@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [kitten] Freshness Security Considerations for minimum/maximum size

Mildly disagree. The point is to avoid processing bogus messages. I’d suggest a security consideration noting this issue and recommending that anything too big to match any supported encryption type should be summarily thrown away.

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Maximum length
> 
> Saying anything about maximum lengths would be out of character for 
> Kerberos standards, I think.  I don't think we should specify a 
> maximum length.

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