[kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposal and advice request
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Tue, 07 June 2011 22:53 UTC
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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposal and advice request
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I've a proposal to make, but I need advice.
The proposal is:
- add a new GSS req_flag: GSS_C_DCE_STYLE_OK (possibly with a nicer
name; suggestions?);
- [optional] add a authz-data element to use in Authenticator to
serve the same purpose as GSS_C_DCE_STYLE_OK, for non-GSS apps;
- add a field or more to EncAPRepPart; acceptors/servers would only
use the EncAPRepPart extension when the GSS_C_DCE_STYLE_OK (or
authz-data element) is present in the initiator/client's AP-REQ's
Authenticator.
I need advice on the following:
a) What better flag name might there be instead of GSS_C_DCE_STYLE_OK?
E.g., GSS_C_EXTRA_TOKENS_OK? GSS_C_NEGO_REPLAY_CACHE_AVOIDANCE?
GSS_C_NO_RCACHE_OK?
b) What to add to EncAPRepPart? And should we add a new SEQUENCE
named something like EncAPRepPartExt?
I was thinking of adding authorization data to EncAPRepPart, like so:
EncAPRepPart ::= [APPLICATION 27] SEQUENCE {
ctime[0] KerberosTime,
cusec[1] krb5int32,
subkey[2] EncryptionKey OPTIONAL,
seq-number[3] krb5uint32 OPTIONAL,
authorization-data[4] AuthorizationData OPTIONAL,
...
}
And there would also be a new authorization-data type by which the
server would indicate that it understood the GSS_C_DCE_STYLE_OK flag
and awaits one more token from the initiator.
Is this OK? Would folks prefer a typed hole for anything *other*
than authorization data here? My opinion is that we already overload
authorization-data, and we're going to do much more of it in the
future, plus we are likely to want to have a way for the acceptor to
send some authorization data to the initiator, plus symmetry is good
when we can have it.
Nico
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- [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposal an… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] [Ietf-krb-wg] Negotiating "DCE style… Martin Rex
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Negotiating "DCE style" -- a proposa… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] [Ietf-krb-wg] Negotiating "DCE style… Martin Rex
- Re: [kitten] [Ietf-krb-wg] Negotiating "DCE style… Luke Howard
- Re: [kitten] [Ietf-krb-wg] Negotiating "DCE style… Luke Howard
- Re: [kitten] [Ietf-krb-wg] Negotiating "DCE style… Luke Howard