Re: [kitten] PKCROSS and philosophical tangents...

"Nordgren, Bryce L -FS" <bnordgren@fs.fed.us> Sun, 16 February 2014 21:18 UTC

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From: "Nordgren, Bryce L -FS" <bnordgren@fs.fed.us>
To: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Thread-Topic: [kitten] PKCROSS and philosophical tangents...
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> Password changes are interoperable provided that they're limited to
> operations that can be performed via the kpasswd protocol (and provided
> you can deal with the kpasswd protocol, which is rather broken, but usually
> workable in practice provided everyone understands the required
> assumptions).

Please excuse the noob question. Was looking for this and found:
* draft-ietf-cat-kerb-chg-password-02 (appears dead as of 1998)
* RFC3244 (Informational/Microsoft implementation)
* draft-ietf-krb-wg-kerberos-set-passwd-08 (appears dead as of 2008 but is referenced in 2013-era RFC6880)

I didn't find an actual standards track RFC kpasswd document...Could you point me at the kpasswd protocol definition?

Thx,
Bryce




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