[kitten] taking on new work?

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Wed, 05 April 2017 04:55 UTC

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Hi all,

Now that we've cleared a fair bit of backlog, publishing a few old
documents and getting ready to kick more up to the IESG, it seems
apropos to consider what "new" work to adopt (many of which have
been lingering as individual documents for a while and are not
exactly new).

To give some historical perspective on the sense of the working
group, back in Buenos Aires the chairs had a (very broad!) list of:
draft-williams-kitten-krb5-pkcross
draft-williams-kitten-krb5-extra-rt
draft-williams-kitten-generic-naming-attributes
draft-williams-kitten-impersonation-naming-attr
draft-vanrein-kitten-rfbsasl
draft-vanrein-dnstxt-krb1
draft-vanrein-krb5-kdh
draft-vanrein-kitten-krb5-pseudonymity
draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-spake-preauth
draft-kaduk-kitten-des-des-des-die-die-die
draft-howard-gssapi-aead
draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery

and the sense of the room was that
draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-spake-preauth and
draft-williams-kitten-krb5-pkcross were the most promising.

(draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery has since been adopted)

Recall that our current work items are listed at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/kitten/documents/ , some of which
are believed to be ready to send to the IESG or nearly so.

What do people currently feel are the top one or two highest
priority items for the WG to consider?  (Such items need not be
limited to the above list, of course; note that, e.g.,
draft-schmaus-kitten-sasl-ht-00 has recently appeared on the list of
related internet-drafts.)

I'll also note that we should be able to ask the curdle WG to take
on draft-kaduk-kitten-des-des-des-die-die-die, which is simple
deprecation of RC4 and 3DES (and some registry cleanup from RFC
6649).  I'll plan to do that unless people want to do it in kitten
instead.  One might also ask about moving
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility to curdle (since it moves
PKINIT off SHA1), but that's a little more complicated since it
first has to add the agility to do so, and judging by the reviews
accumulated and noted at
https://github.com/kittenwg/draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility ,
it should be basically done already.

Thanks,

Ben
for the Chairs