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[km-fs-pcs] Re: Poll (was Re: Thoughts about a BOF at IETF 126)

James <jameshoweee@gmail.com> Fri, 22 May 2026 08:32 UTC

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Subject: [km-fs-pcs] Re: Poll (was Re: Thoughts about a BOF at IETF 126)
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Hi all,

I plan to attend, support the BOF, and am interested in the topics
discussed so far.

I'd also be curious to hear how the different use cases (TLS, IPsec, QUIC)
inform the design of a common MLS-based key management approach, or whether
these are expected to diverge.

Best
James

On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 4:48 PM Thom Wiggers <thom@thomwiggers.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I’m also interested in following this discussion. I will not be in Vienna,
> but would try to attend a BoF remotely.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thom
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