Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] COMMENT: <draft-ietf-krb-wg-anon-12.txt>

Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Fri, 08 October 2010 15:53 UTC

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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:54:25 -0400
From: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, iesg@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] COMMENT: <draft-ietf-krb-wg-anon-12.txt>
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--On Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:54:33 PM -0700 Peter Saint-Andre 
<stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:

> Comment:
> The Security Considerations note that "Because there are plaintext parts
> of the tickets that are exposed on the wire, such matching by a third
> party observer is relatively straightforward." Presumably the use of
> transport layer security would minimize the attack surface here, so at
> least an informative reference to draft-josefsson-kerberos5-starttls
> might be appropriate.

I agree that a reference to some method for protecting against such 
observers would be appropriate.  However, that draft is not the only such 
method, so I think I want to bring this back to the working group to 
discuss.

-- Jeff
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