Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Last Call: <draft-ietf-krb-wg-des-die-die-die-04.txt> (Deprecate DES, RC4-HMAC-EXP, and other weak cryptographic algorithms in Kerberos) to Best Current Practice

Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Sat, 24 March 2012 07:42 UTC

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Hi.

In the writeup I asked Stephen to include a note that there is a
normative downreference to RFC 4757. RFC 4757 is informational.
This document recommends that implementations not implement some of the
algorithms in RFC 4757, thus creating a normative down-ref.
My opinion and that of the WG is that permitting this normative
down-reference is the appropriate course of action. 
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