Re: [L1vpn] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-l1vpn-framework-01.txt

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Sun, 15 January 2006 15:48 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: dpapadimitriou@psg.com, dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel.be, Tomonori TAKEDA <takeda.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
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Subject: Re: [L1vpn] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-l1vpn-framework-01.txt
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Hi,

I would not say that P2MP is out of charter for us, but it is clear to me
that it should be further along the line that at least the basic mode P2P
work.

So yes, if folks want to work on P2MP aspects then they can write it up
(requirements first, as usual) and we'll be happy to have the work
discussed on the mailing list. If there is support, and when we are better
progressed with the basic mode and have started the extended mode, we
would then be in a position to bring the P2MP work into the working group.

Thanks,
Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dimitri papadimitriou" <dpapadimitriou@psg.com>
To: "Tomonori TAKEDA" <takeda.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: <Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be>; <l1vpn@ietf.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [L1vpn] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-l1vpn-framework-01.txt


hi tomonori

now i understand what you mean by "add P2MP aspects" ... reading the §
does it
mean we are going to have a specific document dealing with these aspects ?

thanks,
- dimitri.

Tomonori TAKEDA wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> Thanks for reading the document.
>
> Please see in-line.
>
> At 12:28 06/01/04 +0100, Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be wrote:
>
>> hi tomonori
>>
>> i probably miss it but what has been added concerning P2MP aspects ?
>
>
> Near the end of section 4.1, it says:
>
>    This document does not preclude other advanced services and topology
>    support, such as point-to-multipoint (P2MP) services, as part of the
>    Layer 1 services, but these are for further study.
>
>> concerning section 11 on
>>
>> o Performance management
>>
>>     The provider network MUST support performance management, such as
>>     bit error rate per VPN connections, associated with customers.
>>
>> should include a sub-section on 1) SLA monitoring (SLS parameters) 2)
perf.
>> monitoring (perf. metrics associated to the SLA) and 3) additionally a
>> specific sub-section could be added on the monitoring of parameters
related to
>> the SP's equipment/elements/etc. providing the VPN service but not
directly
>> associated to the SLA
>
>
> I think you are correct. I missed these points but they are important
and should
> be included in the draft. I will incorporate them in the next revision.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tomonori
>
>> thanks,
>> - dimitri.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tomonori TAKEDA <takeda.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>*
>> Sent by: l1vpn-bounces@lists.ietf.org
>>
>> 04/01/2006 05:37
>>         To:        l1vpn@ietf.org
>>         cc:
>>         Subject:        [L1vpn] Re: I-D
ACTION:draft-ietf-l1vpn-framework-01.txt
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have submitted the update of L1VPN framework and requirement I-D.
>>
>> Here is a list of major changes (based on discusssion in the last IETF
>> and on the mailing list).
>> - Addition of scheduling service as one deployment scenario (section
4.5.2)
>> - Addition of recovery aspects (section 9)
>> - Addition of control plane connectivity between CEs (section 10)
>> - Addition of manageability considerations (section 11)
>> - Addition of P2MP aspects (section 4)
>> - Change of the term "optical" to "layer 1" (section 4.2)
>>
>> Comments are appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tomonori
>>
>> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:50:01 -0500
>> Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
>> > This draft is a work item of the Layer 1 Virtual Private Networks
Working
>> Group of the IETF.
>> >
>> >                  Title                                  : Framework
and
>> Requirements for Layer 1 Virtual Private Networks
>> >                  Author(s)                 : T. Takeda
>> >                  Filename                 :
draft-ietf-l1vpn-framework-01.txt
>> >                  Pages                                  : 32
>> >                  Date                                  : 2006-1-3
>> >
>> > This document provides a framework and service level requirements
>> >    for Layer 1 Virtual Private Networks (L1VPNs). This framework is
>> >    intended to aid in developing and standardizing protocols and
>> >    mechanisms to support interoperable L1VPNs.
>> >
>> >    The document examines motivations for L1VPNs, high level (service
>> >    level) requirements, and outlines some of the architectural models
>> >    that might be used to build L1VPNs.
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