Re: [L1vpn] IPR Disclosure Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to RFC 5195

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 30 August 2023 21:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [L1vpn] IPR Disclosure Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to RFC 5195
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Just dropping this into the email archive with no more intention than to
collect information in one place...

One of the inventors listed for the patent in this disclosure (Magnus
Westerlund) was on the IESG at the time that this document was evaluated for
publication and balloted "No Objection".

On the other hand, it might (at first glance) seem hard to see how
"DTLS/SCTP ENHANCEMENTS FOR RAN SIGNALING PURPOSES" applies to "BGP-Based
Auto-Discovery for Layer-1 VPNs", but I am not going to read the patent to
find out. I do wonder whether the patent number has been mistyped.

Adrian

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Subject: [L1vpn] IPR Disclosure Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s
Statement about IPR related to RFC 5195

Dear Don Fedyk, Yakov Rekhter, Hamid H. Ould-Brahim:


An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "BGP-Based
Auto-Discovery for Layer-1 VPNs" (RFC5195) was submitted to the IETF
Secretariat on 2023-08-30 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of
Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/6121/). The title of the IPR disclosure is
"Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to RFC
5195"


Thank you

IETF Secretariat


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