RE: [L2tpext] [Fwd: draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-fr-05.txt]

"Mark Lewis" <mark@mjlnet.com> Fri, 03 June 2005 11:22 UTC

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From: Mark Lewis <mark@mjlnet.com>
To: Carlos Pignataro <cpignata@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [L2tpext] [Fwd: draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-fr-05.txt]
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:19:48 +0100
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Carlos,

Please see inline.


> > 
> > 
> 
> It was brought up by George Wilkie that FRF specs only support 2-octet
> and 4-octet headers, and take the approach of saying "3-octet address
> format is outside scope". Consequently, an "outside of the scope of this
> document" was added in reference to 3-octet FR Headers.
> 
> > 

Aaaaaaaahhh. I knew that had to be a good reason that it wasn't added in the first place. I also stand corrected (at least as far as FRF is concerned!).



> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And another thing (!), I notice in section 6.1 that the PW type 
> is specified as 0x0001. The L2TPv3 number space is separate to 
> that in draft-ietf-pwe3-iana-allocation-09.txt, but it seems that 
> L2TP PW types conform to draft-ietf-pwe3-iana-allocation-09.txt 
> anyway (unless it's an incredible coincidence!). So, wouldn't it 
> be a good idea to use the PW type 0x0019 as 0x0001 corresponds to 
> (legacy) martini DLCI mode, doesn't it? Or is there a good reason 
> to stick with 0x0001??
> > 
> 
> The PW type 0x0019 was added because of the FECN/BECN order reversal in
> the control word for use over an MPLS PSN, problem that does not exist
> in L2TPv3 (and cannot exist as the FR header is transported); as such,
> it seems to me that there is no need to define a new L2TPv3 PW Type and
> obsolete 0x0001, because there is only one FR DLCI PW Type for L2TPv3:
> There is no "new" and "legacy" for L2TPv3 FR DLCI PW Type, and like you
> say it's a separate number space. In addition, 0x0001 has been in the
> draft for quite some time, and the value of 0x0001 had been requested to
> IANA for allocation months ago. L2TPv3 FR DLCI PW Type does not need to
> "match" with 0x0019 because the difference with 0x0001 (applicable only
> to MPLS PWs) does not exist for L2TPv3 (it is equally similar and
> different to both), and making such change this late would create more
> confusion and potential problems.
> 

Yep, I was aware that the 0x0001/0x0019 difference was just a switch of the F/B bits in the CW. I just thought I'd throw it in for fun :)
So, you don't think that going through a long-drawn-out process, creating confusion, and potential problems is worthwhile :) Okay, I vote we stick with 0x0001!

Regards,

Mark



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