Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from MEF on IP Service Attributes"
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Wed, 02 March 2016 15:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from MEF on IP Service Attributes"
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On 3/2/2016 4:24 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Hi Adrian, >> All, >> >> This liaison seems to notify us of work that "is different" from what >> we are doing, but where the authors of this communication believe >> "there is some synergy between the L3SM work and this MEF project." >> >> Following the link supplied and using the username "mef" fails for me >> as a password is required. Let me know if you have any success. > Same here. I was actually able to find the password, in PDF. https://mef.net/liaison-login Username: mef Password: M3F3030 But then, I can't download the "ENNI and Operator Service Attributes" document. Regards, B. > Copying Nan. > > Regards, Benoit >> >> In the man time, I suggest we wait to see whether anyone makes any >> comments on the mailing list with a view to ensuring that the >> "specifications are aligned." >> >> Adrian >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Liaison Statement Management Tool [mailto:lsmt@ietf.org] >>> Sent: 26 February 2016 18:06 >>> To: ietf@wjcerveny.com; joelja@bogus.com; bclaise@cisco.com; >>> adrian@olddog.co.uk; rcallon@juniper.net; ietf@trammell.ch; >>> swallow.ietf@gmail.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; loa@pi.nu >>> Cc: rraghu@ciena.com; IP Performance Metrics Discussion List; >>> Multiprotocol >>> Label Switching Discussion List; Brian Trammell; Nan Chen; Ross >>> Callon; L3VPN >>> Service Model Discussion List; Spencer Dawkins; George Swallow; Martin >>> Stiemerling; Bill Bjorkman; Alia Atlas; The IETF Chair; Joel >>> Jaeggli; Adrian Farrel; Qin >>> Wu; Bill Cerveny; Deborah Brungard; Raghu Ranganathan; Loa >>> Andersson; Benoit >>> Claise; Alvaro Retana >>> Subject: New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from MEF on IP Service >>> Attributes" >>> >>> Title: Liaison from MEF on IP Service Attributes >>> Submission Date: 2016-02-26 >>> URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1458/ >>> >>> From: "Raghu Ranganathan" <rraghu@ciena.com> >>> To: bclaise@cisco.com, joelja@bogus.com, ietf@trammell.ch>, >>> ietf@wjcerveny.com, loa@pi.nu, swallow.ietf@gmail.com, >>> rcallon@juniper.net, >>> adrian@olddog.co.uk, bill.wu@huawei.com >>> Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana@cisco.com>,Joel Jaeggli >>> <joelja@bogus.com>,Deborah Brungard <db3546@att.com>,IP Performance >>> Metrics Discussion List <ippm@ietf.org>,Multiprotocol Label >>> Switching Discussion >>> List <mpls@ietf.org>,Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>,Qin Wu >>> <bill.wu@huawei.com>,Bill Cerveny <ietf@wjcerveny.com>,Brian Trammell >>> <ietf@trammell.ch>,Spencer Dawkins >>> <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>,George Swallow >>> <swallow.ietf@gmail.com>,Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>,The IETF Chair >>> <chair@ietf.org>,Nan Chen <nan@metroethernetforum.org>,Ross Callon >>> <rcallon@juniper.net>,Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>,Benoit Claise >>> <bclaise@cisco.com>,L3VPN Service Model Discussion List >>> <l3sm@ietf.org>,Bill >>> Bjorkman <bill@metroethernetforum.net>,Martin Stiemerling >>> <mls.ietf@gmail.com>,Raghu Ranganathan <rraghu@ciena.com>, >>> Response Contacts: rraghu@ciena.com >>> Technical Contacts: >>> Purpose: For information >>> >>> Body: We would like to inform you that during our 1Q2016 meeting, >>> MEF has >>> approved a new project on IP Service Attributes. We have set out some >>> background and further details below. >>> >>> MEF is well known for the definition of Carrier Ethernet (CE) >>> services (in MEF 6.2, >>> MEF 33 and MEF 51) based on service attributes (defined in MEF 10.3 >>> and MEF >>> 26.1). In MEF terms, a "service" refers to the set of attributes and >>> their values >>> that are agreed between the provider of a serviceand the customer of >>> that >>> service. These attributes are independent of how the service is >>> implemented; for >>> example a CE service could be >>> implemented using Provider Backbone Bridging (802.1Q) or using VPLS >>> (RFC >>> 4761/4762) to provide the connectivity across the service provider's >>> network. >>> MEF defines both end-to-end services agreed between a subscriber and a >>> service provider, where the end points are all User-Network >>> Interfaces (UNIs), >>> and inter-provider services supplied by one service provider or >>> operator to >>> another, where the end points may be UNIs or External Network-Network >>> Interfaces (ENNIs). >>> >>> Note that this differs from how the word "service" is sometimes used >>> in IETF, e.g. >>> to describe a particular technology (as in "Virtual Private LAN >>> Service"). >>> >>> Although IP Services are widely deployed, there is currently no >>> standard >>> definition of the attributes and values used to describe them. Each >>> Service >>> Provider has their own way of describing IP services (including in >>> some cases their >>> own terminology); this makes it hard for customers to compare >>> service offerings >>> from different providers, and in particular makes it hard for >>> providers to >>> interconnect with each other – each Service Provider must form a >>> specific >>> bilateral agreement with each other Service Provider they wish to >>> connect with. >>> >>> Furthermore, there is a desire among service providers to improve >>> service >>> delivery times by automating the service ordering and configuration >>> process. This >>> is a key aspect of MEF Lifecycle Services Orchestration (LSO). The >>> aim of MEF LSO >>> is to deliver the MEF Third Network vision, to provide Assured, >>> Agile and >>> Orchestrated services. MEF LSO enables automation and orchestration >>> of service >>> ordering and management between service providers ("East/West >>> interfaces") >>> through the creation of standard data models and APIs. However, a >>> pre-requisite >>> for defining those is to have a standard definition of the service >>> that is to be >>> managed. >>> >>> The new project is intended to address these issues by providing a >>> standard >>> definition of IP Services, including both end-to-end services and >>> inter-provider >>> services, through the definition of a standard set of Service >>> Attributes that can be >>> used in each case. The scope is limited to IP-VPN and Internet >>> Access services (IP >>> peering/transit for internet traffic is precluded). It is intended >>> that this project is >>> the first step in enabling multi-operator service orchestration of >>> IP Services using >>> MEF LSO, and that later projects will use the Service Attributes to >>> create standard >>> data models and APIs. The intent of LSO is to provide a common >>> framework >>> across different service technologies; MEF is working with TMF and >>> ONF to create >>> common models for services, and the standard data models and APIs >>> for IP >>> Services will tie into this framework. >>> >>> We have noted that IETF is working on a Yang model for Layer 3 >>> Services in the >>> L3SM working group. Although the scope of that project in IETF is >>> different, it is >>> clear there is some synergy between the L3SM work and this MEF >>> project. We >>> believe that both projects can benefit from input from each other >>> and we hope >>> to work closely with the L3SM working group to ensure our >>> specifications are >>> aligned. >>> >>> The scope of the initial phase of the IP Service Attributes project >>> includes: >>> -Definition of attributes for IP-capable UNIs and NNIs, for IP >>> Service connections, >>> and for IP Service End Points at UNIs and ENNIs >>> -IP address allocations and IP control protocols (e.g. DHCP) etc at >>> UNIs >>> -OAM across the external interface (by reference to IETF protocols and >>> mechanisms) >>> -Service Level Specification (SLS) definitions including performance >>> monitoring/constraints (by reference to IETF protocols and metric >>> definitions) >>> -Redundant links at an external interface (Subscriber/Service >>> provider or >>> between Service Providers), including options for different routing >>> protocols. >>> -Multi-CoS services (i.e. QoS classification) and classification of >>> Green/Yellow >>> packets including diffserv, Bandwidth profiles, etc. >>> -IPv4, IPv6 and dual stack services >>> -Inter-operator IP-VPN services using options A, B or C from RFC4364 >>> -Unicast only (multicast is defered to a future phase). >>> -Other topics may be added as the project progresses. >>> >>> It is important to note that we intend to make extensive reference >>> to existing >>> IETF RFCs where applicable; it is not our intent to specify new >>> protocols or >>> mechanisms where there are existing solutions. >>> >>> Note: further information about MEF LSO can be found in the LSO >>> Reference >>> Architecture. The final verison is expected to be published in >>> March; in the >>> meantime, the latest approved draft is available as below: >>> https://mef.net/liaison-login >>> Username: mef >>> Attachments: >>> >>> Liaison >>> https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-02-26-mef- >>> ippm-mpls-l3sm-ops-liaison-from-mef-on-ip-service-attributes-attachment-1.pdf >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> L3sm mailing list >> L3sm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l3sm >
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- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Benoit Claise
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Benoit Claise
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Nan Chen
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Ranganathan, Raghu
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Benoit Claise
- Re: [L3sm] New Liaison Statement, "Liaison from M… Ranganathan, Raghu