Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing for fast PE protection"
Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com> Fri, 29 November 2013 05:53 UTC
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From: Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com>
To: Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing for fast PE protection"
Thread-Topic: Why we consider the method of "label sharing for fast PE protection"
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 05:53:45 +0000
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I any PE is part of 2 RGs, then those RGs can not have overlapping label spaces. -- Jakob Heitz. On Nov 28, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Mingui Zhang" <zhangmingui@huawei.com> wrote: > Hi Bruno, > > So you suppose the label used in an RG cannot be used again out of the RG. That is not correct. > Please find my comments inline [Mingui]. > > <snip> >> [Bruno2] Let's assume: >> - 5 PE in the group, hence sharing the same range of labels (e.g., 1~1100). >> - 5 VPNs in connect to this group of PE, 2 of which being dual-homed (VPN1 & >> VPN2). >> >> With label sharing: >> Label:1 2 3 4 5 >> >> PE1 VPN1 x x x x >> PE2 VPN1 VPN2 x x x >> PE3 x VPN2 x x x >> PE4 x x VPN3 x x >> PE5 x x x VPN4 VPN5 >> >> All labels marked as "x" are burned/lost because of the label sharing. > > [Mingui] Not true. Where we got this constraint? For an explicitly example, PE4 can well use label 1,2,4,5. > > [Mingui] I anticipate you assume PE1~PE5 are forming an RG, so that once a label is used it is used across the RG. I need to point out that the unit of "RG" is independent of PEs. It depends on the VPN connections. I saw Zhou Peng has already given examples on this point. > > <snip> > >> [Bruno2] not always. There is public/ietf example for this: >> draft-l3vpn-legacy-rtc-00 > > [Mingui] It's designed to be incrementally deployable in the network. The trick is confined in the RG. Other P and PE routers are unaware of the change. > > [Mingui] I guess you may change to imagine the scenario that operator need a legacy PE and a label sharing PE form an RG. Let's consider the analogy that the operator interconnects two switches using LAG while one of them does not support LAG at all. :) > > [Mingui] Thanks for continuing the discussion. I think the discussion about label ranges reservation in another thread is related to our discussion. To my understanding, the conclusion is that it's not OK to require a label block to be supported across multiple PEs. A possible escape is to resort to a higher-layer authorized entity out of the RG to assign the label. > > Thanks, > Mingui
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- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … bruno.decraene
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … bruno.decraene
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Stewart Bryant
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- 答复: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Lizhenbin
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Stewart Bryant
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jeff Tantsura
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- 答复: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Lizhenbin
- 答复: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Lizhenbin
- 答复: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Lizhenbin
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Stewart Bryant
- Re: 答复: Why we consider the method of "label shar… Stewart Bryant
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Stewart Bryant
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Eric Gray
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Eric Gray
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Eric Gray
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Robert Raszuk
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … bruno.decraene
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Zhoupeng (Jewpon)
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … bruno.decraene
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Zhoupeng (Jewpon)
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jakob Heitz
- Re: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Jeff Tantsura
- RE: Why we consider the method of "label sharing … Mingui Zhang