[Lake] Re: Comments for remote attestation over EDHOC

Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de> Tue, 28 May 2024 07:38 UTC

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Subject: [Lake] Re: Comments for remote attestation over EDHOC
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On 27.05.24 16:32, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Any and all combinations are *possible*
>
>
> Well, I don't see how a constrained device is going to be able to act as a
> Verifier.
>
Now I see a clear contradiction in the two statements above.
>      >> I have a half-written document on putting EAT into the full BRSKI protocol.
>      >> A reason that I stopped is that I realized that doing security posture
>      >> evaluation at onboarding time (only) wasn't enough.  It has to be done
>      >> regularly.  So having a protocol used at onboarding time and another one
>      >> during normal operation meant that the onboarding one would have bugs that
>      >> never get fixed, since the code only runs once.
>
>      > It seems very interesting. What kind of bugs? Can you give a few examples of
>      > the "bugs that never get fixed"? Which "code" exactly? Are you advocating
>      > that having attestation during secure channel establishment for IoT
>      > onboarding is useless?
>
> Code that runs only once in a device's lifetime likely has bugs that nobody
> notices and never get fixed.
>
I am still struggling to find out what exactly is your opinion, and what 
is the scientific argument behind that. Are you advocating that 
attestation is useless during secure channel establishment for IoT 
onboarding?

Regards,

Usama