[Lake] Re: [EXT] Call for adoption: draft-pocero-lake-authkem-edhoc-00 (Ends 2026-06-25)

[Renzo Navas <[e-mail]>]

Dear All,

Thanks to those who already expressed his opinion on this call for adoption.
Reminder: for those who were supportive in the LAKE Interim please also
send some words here.
The early-cutoff date for I-D is next monday.

Saludos/Regards,

Renzo for the LAKE chairs

On Thu, Jun 25, 2026 at 8:25 AM RAFAEL MARIN LOPEZ <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Dear all:
>
> I support adoption of this draft.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> El 17 jun 2026, a las 17:11, Erik Anderlind <[e-mail]>
> escribió:
>
> I support adoption of this draft.
>
> A few comments that can be addressed in later editing:
>
> It would be great if could revise fig2, as it leaves out important steps
> such as key expansion (Fig 2 e.g. shows K4 used as both an encryption and a
> key derivation key), and update the section 3.1.1 text, as it glosses over
> details that are only understood when later see figure 3. Potentially just
> show EDHOC_KDF blocks instead of separate extract and expand.
>
> There is an opportunity to define a unidirectional authentication mode
> where an Initiator stays anonymous, doesn’t need to send it’s static key,
> and likely can save one message (containing ct_I). Contrast this to
> RFC9528, where cryptographic artifacts are small and therefore acceptable
> to always send and sign, even if a node doesn’t have the ability to
> authenticate the credential. An example could be a public weather station
> that permits anyone to access the data, yet provides a secure session to
> ensure the readings originate from the intended source.
>
> It may also, similar to EDHOC-PSK,  be possible to use an application
> message instead of the last message (5) e.g. if message 4 includes a 2nd
> MAC such that responder demonstrates knowledge of ss_I. For unidirectional
> auth mode could result in total of 3+1 messages.
>
> For the algorithm registrations mentioned below, it may be desirable to
> also register a new key type, since post quantum signing keys and KEM keys
> have distinct uses. This would simplify code checking that METHOD and key
> type are compatible. May also want the key type to allow for composite
> PQC/T keys if PKIs evolve in that direction.
>
> Cheers
>
> Erik
>
> On Jun 13, 2026, at 11:36 AM, John Mattsson <john.mattsson=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I support adoption of this draft.
>
> Agree with Brian regarding the IANA considerations. There is more overlap
> with [5] that need to be addressed in the future.
>
> My clear preference is that COSE WG or JOSE WG registers the algorithms.
> Would be good if more people got involved in the discussions.
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/jose/xU35Xr8w4U__xcNDBaA1l6MFLPU/
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>
> Cheers,
> John Preuß Mattsson
>
> On 2026-06-12, 16:30, "Sipos, Brian J." <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Chairs,
> I support WG adoption of this draft. It will help provide options for
> current
> and future PQC families (including hybrid KEMs).
>
> I do have some comments for the IANA Considerations which can be dealt with
> during later editing.
> 1. Registration of COSE Algorithm code points is more than just specifying
> the
> IANA code point. There is a COSE draft [4] covering these code points, but
> it
> has expired and this could be some motivation to make progress on that
> other
> draft enabling this one.
> 2. The proposed EDHOC cipher suite 8 seems like it has a mismatch between
> the
> strength of the signature alg and the others. But there is also overlap
> between these registrations and the ones for ML-DSA authentication [5].
> 3. Both section 5.2 and 5.3 registration tables will need to be reconciled
> with the other draft [5] at some point for consistency. Maybe this draft
> needs
> to only register a method and leave the other registrations to other drafts
> (just makes the publication more complex).
>
> Brian S.
>
> [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem/
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> [5] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spm-lake-pqsuites/
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> > This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-06-25
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document specifies extensions to the Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman
> >    Over COSE (EDHOC) protocol to provide resistance against quantum
> >    computer adversaries by incorporating Post-Quantum Cryptography (PQC)
> >    Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (KEMs) for both key exchange and
> >    authentication.  It defines a new signature-free KEM-based
> >    authentication method in which both parties authenticate using KEMs,
> >    enabling quantum-resistant authentication without relying on digital
> >    signatures when PQC KEMs, such as the NIST-standardized ML-KEM, are
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> > [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2026-lake-01-
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> B5QT
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> John Preuß Mattsson
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