[Lake] Re: [EXT] Re: Call for Interest: Post-Quantum EDHOC Design Team

Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com> Tue, 21 April 2026 13:14 UTC

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From: Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com>
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Dear All,

Dear Design Team, we set up an agenda to guide tomorrow's DT meeting,
you can find it below:

https://notes.ietf.org/s/4gj7Lv48-D#

Suggestion/Reminder: try to be familiar with the terms "Constrained
Nodes" and "Constrained Networks" from
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iotops-7228bis/06/

Regards,

Renzo for the chairs


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From: Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri@ll.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [EXT] [Lake] Re: Call for Interest: Post-Quantum EDHOC Design Team
To: Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com>
Cc: lake@ietf.org <lake@ietf.org>, Renzo Navas <renzoefrai@gmail.com>,
Johann Großschädl <johann.groszschaedl@gmail.com>


I am pretty sure there is no such limit, because we have a private
group that regularly holds online discussions lasting 69-90 minutes.
Likelier, the number of participants will be limited - but again, for
a reasonably small design team (10-20 members) it shouldn’t be a
factor.

If possible, I suggest checking it. Because through the years of
COVID, Zoom proved to be the most practical usable platform.

Thnx
—
Regards,
Uri

Secure Resilient Systems and Technologies
MIT Lincoln Laboratory

> On Apr 16, 2026, at 04:41, Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear All,
>
> I hope you are well.
>
> Dear @Uri thanks for the suggestion, but I think the free version of
> zoom is limited to 40 minutes.
>
> I just send you a private invitation using Webex from my work
> renzo.navas@imt-atlantique.fr (If you did not receive it let me know).
>
> Date: ** Wednesday 22th of April 18h00-19h30 Paris Time (GMT+2) **
>
> Objective of this first meeting:
> "We will discuss the specific objectives of the Design Team during its
> first meeting, and will come back to the working group on this."
>
> Members of the Design Team (DT).
> John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
> Lidia Pocero Fraile <pocero@isi.gr>
> Christos Koulamas <koulamas@isi.gr>
> Shujaatali Badami <shujaatali@ieee.org>
> Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri@ll.mit.edu>
> Clement Papon <clement.papon@unilim.fr>
> RAFAEL MARIN LOPEZ <rafa@um.es>
> Vaishnavi Sundararajan <vaishnavi@cse.iitd.ac.in>
> Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com> [I had a typo!]
> Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr>
> Johann Großschädl <johann.groszschaedl@gmail.com>
>
> Regards,
>
> Renzo
>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 8:48 PM Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
>> <uri@ll.mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Why not just use Zoom?
>> —
>> Regards,
>> Uri
>>
>> Secure Resilient Systems and Technologies
>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 09:54, Renzo Navas <renzoefra@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Dear LAKERs, dear Johann
>>>
>>> According to the poll the first meeting of the DT will be:
>>> ** Wednesday 22th of April 18h00-19h30 Paris Time (GMT+2) **
>>>
>>> 9/10 present.  @URI to make meetings "fair" I will try to prioritize
>>> somehow your presence for the next DT meeting.
>>> Ideally we should meet bi-weekly (or even weekly) we will see. We will
>>> produce some minutes to share (and ask the advice or comments on the
>>> members that can not be present).
>>>
>>> The visio link will come later because we should decide ourselves
>>> which tool to use (normally meetecho is for interim meetings, which
>>> this meeting is not),
>>> any suggestion/préference for visioconference system is welcome. I
>>> have CISCO Webex at work.
>>>
>>> @Johann
>>>> I'd like to join the design team as well.
>>> Great! You are welcome, I add you to the members of the Design Team (DT).
>>>
>>> John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
>>> Lidia Pocero Fraile <pocero@isi.gr>
>>> Christos Koulamas <koulamas@isi.gr>
>>> Shujaatali Badami <shujaatali@ieee.org>
>>> Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri@ll.mit.edu>
>>> Clement Papon <clement.papon@unilim.fr>
>>> RAFAEL MARIN LOPEZ <rafa@um.es>
>>> Vaishnavi Sundararajan <vaishnavi@cse.iitd.ac.in>
>>> Renzo Navas <renzoefrai@gmail.com>
>>> Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr>
>>> Johann Großschädl <johann.groszschaedl@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a good week,
>>>
>>> Renzo
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 2:40 PM Johann Großschädl
>>>> <johann.groszschaedl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31-Mar-26 15:30, Shujaatali Badami wrote:
>>>>> Hey Renzo,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to join the Design Team. My work focuses on PQC
>>>>> performance for constrained IoT devices (RFC 7228 Class 1/2).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Shujaatali
>>>>
>>>> Dear Renzo,
>>>> dear Lakers,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to join the design team as well. My background is in
>>>> efficient and secure implementation of cryptographic primitives (both
>>>> pre- and post-quantum) and their application in security protocols.
>>>> For example, two years ago I implemented and evaluated (together with
>>>> 3 colleagues) pre-quantum, post-quantum, and hybrid variants of the 12
>>>> fundamental Noise handshake patterns:
>>>> https://orbilu.uni.lu/handle/10993/63642
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Johann
>>>>
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