Re: [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-core-problem-details-05
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Thu, 23 June 2022 18:34 UTC
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From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 20:34:04 +0200
Cc: "\"Martin J. Dürst\"" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, Applications and Real-Time Area Discussion <art@ietf.org>, Core WG mailing list <core@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-core-problem-details.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-core-problem-details-05
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On 2022-06-23, at 13:13, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Carsten, > > OK - you need to get this CORE document published quickly. Thank you. > But I still think that detailed CDDL would be a long-term mistake, for the reason > that Martin cited - i.e., copying/transforming grammars among RFCs is fragile. Well, the RFC is immutable, so the act of making a copy cannot by itself be fragile. What got us to now propose blunting that grammar is the strong impression that there may be less consensus about the grammar defined by RFC 5646 than we thought. So it seems the grammar in RFC 5646 is fragile, not the act of copying it out... https://github.com/core-wg/core-problem-details/pull/40/commits/bbe72e2 (I’m making a point about copying here as I believe copying out snippets of CDDL from RFCs and other specifications will be a significant part of CDDL 2.0.) Grüße, Carsten
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