[Last-Call] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt> (Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3) to Informational RFC
Damien Miller <djm@mindrot.org> Thu, 04 June 2026 07:54 UTC
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Subject: [Last-Call] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt> (Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3) to Informational RFC
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On Tue, 2 Jun 2026, Loganaden Velvindron wrote: > I think that security reviews in hybrid ed25519+mldsa 44 for openssh are > welcome. > > What are the security issues you see in this pr ? > > https://github.com/djmdjm/openssh-wip/pull/64 FWIW this is very much my work in progress code that has yet to have any substantive review. I'm not particularly comfortable with it being held up as an exemplar of anything. Feedback is of course invited; Soatok Dreamseeker's commentary was especially welcome. I don't think choices that make sense for SSH will necessarily apply to TLS. They operate under different constaints, standardise on different timescales and should therefore be expected to arrive at different tradeoffs. -d
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- [Last-Call] Re: [TLS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Las… Loganaden Velvindron
- [Last-Call] Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… D. J. Bernstein
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