Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-murchison-rfc8536bis-12
Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Sun, 24 March 2024 10:02 UTC
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To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>, art@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-murchison-rfc8536bis-12
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Hiya, On 24.03.2024 07:01, Paul Eggert wrote: > > I agree with Arthur that the intent is correct here: POSIX > compatibility is not required here, although it is recommended, and > this means the text should continue to use SHOULD instead of MUST. To > document this better, after this section 4 bullet: > > * Time zone designations SHOULD consist of at least three (3) and no > more than six (6) ASCII characters from the set of alphanumerics, > '-', and '+'. This is for compatibility with POSIX requirements > for time zone abbreviations. > > perhaps we should add the following bullet (I'm trying to channel > Arthur...): > > * Although time zone designations in TZif files can contain > arbitrary non-NUL bytes in a practice that predates the > widespread use of UTF-8, these can could cause problems if > used as-is. Readers SHOULD instead use POSIX-compatible > substitutes when a TZif file's designations are not > POSIX-compatible. > For version 4 entries, it's possible to make new rules. So, you could instead require a POSIX string for this purpose, but only for version 4. Otherwise, I'd leave the text alone. Eliot > Not that I know of any reader code that actually does that.... > > > >> Comment 2) >> quoting Sec 4. Interoperability Considerations: ""application/tzif-leap" >> (Section 8.2) to indicate that leap-second records are included in >> the TZif >> data " >> >> In IANA Considerations section (8), the description for >> application/tzif-leap >> and application/tzif are identical, which does not help a viewer of >> the IANA >> registry to decide which one to use. Suggesting to add text in 8.2 >> "Applications that use this media type" for application/tzif-leap to >> the fact >> that this one includes leap-second records so that the IANA registry >> do contain >> a differentiation text. > > Good point. To fix this, in section 8.1 "application/tzif", under > "Applications that use this media type:", we could change "time zone > information" to "time zone information relative to POSIX time, which > does not use leap seconds". Similarly, in section 8.2 we could change > "time zone information" to "time zone information relative to > Coordinated Universal Time, which does use leap seconds" >
- [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-murc… Marc Blanchet via Datatracker
- Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-… Arthur David Olson
- Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-… Paul Eggert
- Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-… Paul Eggert