Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-locparam-06

Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Mon, 17 February 2020 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-sipcore-locparam-06
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What happened here?  This document has just been approved for publication.

Brian

> On Feb 17, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Tim Chown via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Reviewer: Tim Chown
> Review result: Has Issues
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of
> the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included
> in AD reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs should
> treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
> 
> The draft describes an extension to RFC6442 to support the inclusion of a
> “loc-src” parameter to the SIP Geolocation field such that when multiple
> locationValues are present the recipient can make a better informed decision
> about which locationValue it wishes to use.
> 
> For the context of my comments, I am not that familiar with SIP-related
> protocols.
> 
> The rationale for the addition of this parameter appears sound, and its
> definition seems appropriate. However, the document is written in such a way
> that the rationale is split over two sections, and the mechanism for including
> the parameter is split across three sections, leaving the document a little
> clumsy for readers to follow.
> 
> Overall, the document is one that should ultimately be published, but as is it
> has issues, and in my view needs some restructuring to make it more concise and
> simpler to follow, so is not (yet) ready for publication.
> 
> Main comments:
> 
> The definition of the parameter itself is fine.
> 
> The first issue is around the rationale.  This seems perfectly sound, but the
> document splits the reasoning between most of the Introduction and the first
> two paragraphs of Section 3.  It would be better to have the rationale in a
> Rationale section, without repetition.
> 
> The more confusing issue is the way the mechanism is described over Sections 3
> (paragraphs 3,4,5), 4 (paragraph 3) and 7 (all paragraphs).  There is
> repetition, some clashes, and some ambiguity.  Rewriting the text to have a
> single mechanism section would make the text far clearer, in my view.
> 
> Here is how I would suggest the text is restructured:
> 
> Introduction
> Largely paras 1 and 2 of the current intro.
> 
> Rationale
> Largely para 3 of the intro, and paras 1 and 2 of the existing Rationale
> section.
> 
> Loc-src parameter specification
> Paras 1-2 of the Mechanism section, with the Figure, and para 6 of the
> Rationale section.
> 
> Mechanism
> A rewrite of paras 3-5 of the current Rationale section, para 3 of the current
> Mechanism section, and pretty much all of the Security section.
> 
> Example
> Can stay as is
> 
> Privacy Considerations
> Fine
> 
> Security Considerations
> Just one para mentioning the trust issue and the protections defined in the
> Mechanism section would be fine.  Don’t split the guidance as it currently is
> across three sections - put it all in one pace where - a new Mechanisms section
> as above - it can be much more easily followed and implemented.
> 
> Other comments:
> 
> Section 3
> Para 2 says the document makes no comment on the rationale, but the document
> explains the rationale.  Perhaps just delete this. Para 5 talks about another
> networks with no trust; is the issue messages sent to (as stated) or also
> received from?  I think when you pull all the mechanism text into one place you
> can make this clearer.
> 
> Section 4
> Para 3 - what is the difference between a UA and UE from the point of view of
> an end node adding (or not adding) a loc-src parameter?  It says a UA MUST NOT
> add one, but in Section 5 states that a UE might provide it? The last sentence
> talks of removing loc-src for certain case(s) but this is also included in
> Sections 3 and 7.  It really needs to be stated clearly in one place.
> 
> Section 5
> Para 1  - RFC 4483 or RFC 2392?  RFC6442 cites 2392 for cid.
> 
> Section 7
> Para 1 - What is a “location recipient”?  A receiver which is inspecting a
> header with multiple locationValues?  Perhaps define this, or rewrite. Paras 2
> and 3 - “strongly recommended” should be “RECOMMENDED” ? I think much of this
> section is repeating what has been said before, e.g. in Section 4 it says “MUST
> remove” and here it says removing it is (only) strongly recommended.
> 
> Bets wishes,
> Tim
>