Re: [Last-Call] [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-06

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Wed, 05 May 2021 14:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-06
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> Pivoting for a second, are you intending to support the case in which
> a provider has adopted RPKI but has no intention of signing these
> files?

unfortunately, this will be common for a while.  methods for signing
with keys from the rpki are baroque at the moment, with two documents
   draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-rta-00
   draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-rsc-03
proposing means.

> If so, then web PKI integrity (i.e., being able to trust that the data
> at the https geofeed URL is controlled by the same entity that
> controls the routing data) is still required to prevent forgery.

the draft does require tls for the temporary remarks: based url.  it
will be fixed to do so for the geofeed: url.

the web pki is not associated with ip address space control/ownership.
web pki is based on control of domain name space.  the two are quite
unrelated.

randy