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Re: [Last-Call] [tcpm] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus-12.txt> (HyStart++: Modified Slow Start for TCP) to Proposed Standard

Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 18 January 2023 18:00 UTC

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From: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:59:55 -0800
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To: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [tcpm] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus-12.txt> (HyStart++: Modified Slow Start for TCP) to Proposed Standard
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Thanks Neal, we will fix this reference.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 7:29 PM Neal Cardwell <ncardwell=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> A reference nit I happened to notice: it looks like the Hystart reference
> here seems to have a few issues:
>
> [HyStart]Ha, S. and I. Ree, "Hybrid Slow Start for High-Bandwidth and
> Long-Distance Networks", DOI 10.1145/1851182.1851192, International
> Workshop on Protocols for Fast Long-Distance Networks, 2008, <
> https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.517.2701&rep=rep1&type=pdf
> >.
> (1)  that reference is listing a URL that no longer works.
>
> (2) that reference is referencing a 2008 paper about Hystart when there is
> a newer paper from 2011 that might be better to reference; the 2011 paper
> is referenced by 8312bis as follows, and includes a working URL:
>
>    [HR11]     Ha, S. and I. Rhee, "Taming the elephants: New TCP slow
>               start", Computer Networks vol. 55, no. 9, pp. 2092-2110,
>               DOI 10.1016/j.comnet.2011.01.014, June 2011,
>               <https://doi.org/10.1016/j.comnet.2011.01.014>.
>
>
> best regards,
> neal
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 4:35 PM The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> The IESG has received a request from the TCP Maintenance and Minor
>> Extensions
>> WG (tcpm) to consider the following document: - 'HyStart++: Modified Slow
>> Start for TCP'
>>   <draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus-12.txt> as Proposed Standard
>>
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>> final
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>> Abstract
>>
>>
>>    This document describes HyStart++, a simple modification to the slow
>>    start phase of congestion control algorithms.  Traditional slow start
>>    can overshoot the ideal send rate in many cases, causing high packet
>>    loss and poor performance.  HyStart++ uses a delay increase heuristic
>>    to find an exit point before possible overshoot.  It also adds a
>>    mitigation to prevent jitter from causing premature slow start exit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The file can be obtained via
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tcpm-hystartplusplus/
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