[lemonade] RE: Lemonade Kicker Design Team Proposal
"Glenn Parsons" <gparsons@nortel.com> Wed, 25 July 2007 23:01 UTC
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In addition to the Profile-bis proposal, we also concluded on what to do with the existing notifications document. Essentially, the plan is to retain it but also to move some of the material to either Profile-bis or the new OMA document Randy noted. So specifically the on draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications, the disposition on the clauses is as follows: Title: LEMONADE Notifications Architecture 3. Objectives -> OMA document 4. Architecture -> retain 5. Capabilities -> drop 6. Events - paragraphs 1-4 -> Profile 5.4 paragraph 5 -> Profile ... remainder -> retain 7. Filters -> Profile 8. Inband -> Profile 5.4.1 9. Outband - non-xemn -> Profile Appendix on notifications xemn -> drop 10. Message store -> drop 11. Provision -> Profile or NOTIFY 12. Filters -> drop 13. Out of scope -> OMA document 14. S2S -> retain 15. security -> retain 16. references -> retain 17. future -> drop 18. ack -> retain? AppA -> Profile Appendix on notifications AppB -> drop Randy will remain the author of the Notifications document. Eric and I will author the OMA document. Cheers, Glenn. -----Original Message----- From: Randall Gellens [mailto:randy@qualcomm.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:55 PM To: Alexey Melnikov; Chris Newman; Dave Cridland; Randall Gellens; Parsons, Glenn (CAR:1A14); Eric Burger Cc: lemonade@ietf.org Subject: Lemonade Kicker Design Team Proposal The lemonade "kicker" design team that was formed yesterday met today, formulated a proposal, and disbanded. Here is the proposal for how to deal with Section 8 in profile-bis and mention minimal "kicker" notifications: Introduction (Section 2) already says: It is intended that the Lemonade profile support realizations of the OMA's mobile email enabler (MEM) (see [MEM-req] and [MEM-arch]) using Internet Mail protocols defined by the IETF. Move Section 8 (OMA) to new Informational document "IETF Lemonade as an OMA MEM enabler" or some such title. Repeat the sentence above in its Introduction. Make Section 5.4 into "Notifications" with introductory text (from notifications document section 6 first four paragraphs). The existing 5.4 text becomes 5.4.1 "In-IMAP Notifications". Add new section: 5.4.2. Out-of-IMAP Notifications Lemonade, and TCP, provide for long-lived idle connections between the client and mail store, allowing the server to push notifications within IMAP. Some mobile networks support dormancy, which shuts down the radio traffic channel during idle periods to conserve handset and network resources, while maintaining IP and TCP state. (See the deployments [deployments] document for more information.) However, there are environments where the email client cannot remain active indefinitely, or where it is not advisable (or even always possible) for TCP connections to the server to remain up while idle for extended periods. In these situations, a good user experience requires that when "interesting" events occur in the mail store, the client be informed so that it can connect and resynchronize. At an absolute minimum, this requires that at least the arrival of new mail generate some sort of wake-up to the email client. A number of vendors have implemented various solutions to this. As examples of what has been done, for many years (long pre-dating cellular handsets) the technique described in RFC 4116 has been supported. Today, a number of email vendors include facilities to send SMS or other simple non-stream messages to clients on handsets when new mail arrives. OMA has published a mechanism that uses WAP PUSH to send a basic message containing a URL [OMA-EMN]. The IETF is investigating ways to standardize enhanced functionality in this area. A "push email" user experience can be achieved using any number of techniques, ranging from always-on TCP connectivity to the server and the NOTIFY extension described above, to OMA EMN, or even a non-standard trigger message over SMS. In any technique, the client learns of the existence of new mail, and decides to fetch information about it, some part of it, or all of it, and then presents this to the user. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly-selected tag: --------------- To err is human, to moo bovine. _______________________________________________ lemonade mailing list lemonade@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lemonade Supplemental Web Site: http://www.standardstrack.com/ietf/lemonade
- [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Proposal Randall Gellens
- [lemonade] RE: Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Glenn Parsons
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Ben Last
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Douglas Paul-APD028
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Ben Last
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Douglas Paul-APD028
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Ben Last
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Zoltan.Ordogh
- RE: [lemonade] Lemonade Kicker Design Team Propos… Randall Gellens