Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue
Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Tue, 04 August 2009 15:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue
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On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>> "Margaret" == Margaret Wasserman <mrw@sandstorm.net> writes: > > Margaret> On Jul 30, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: >>> >>> What I'm saying is that *if* UDP us used, it needs to be used >>>> according to the RFCs that capture the IETF consensus on their >>>> use, or the IETF consensus must be revised. >>> >>> And what we are are saying is to be practical (and sensible). > > Margaret> Well, what *I* am saying is that UDP-Lite was designed > Margaret> to offer a practical and sensible alternative for > Margaret> exactly these situations. Why won't it work for LISP? > > Margaret> Margaret _______________________________________________ > Margaret> lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org > Margaret> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > And While we're all *saying* things, I as chair am *saying* that at > the end of this discussion we're going to document it.:-) > > > Assuming that the current LISP behavior does not change, it sounds > like we have the following to document: > > 1) Add a normative reference to some standards-track or BCP document > that makes our behavior permissible. > I think that that should be to http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eubanks-chimento-6man-00 assuming 6man adopts it. > In that document or in the LISP spec: > > 2) Document why you'd use UDP, not IPIP or udp-light. > > 3) Answer Margaret's questions about what the effects of packet > corruption are. That probably belongs in the LISP spec. > I think it should be in the UDP Checksum document. > 4) If there are changes that seem sensible for the IPV6 community to > consider long-term, write them up and suggest them to 6man|intarea as > appropriate. > We are updating (a piece) of RFC2460. Does there need to be more ? Regards Marshall > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >
- [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue byzek
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Pekka Savola
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Fred Baker
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Benny Amorsen
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Lars Eggert
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Brian E Carpenter
- [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksum is… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Vince Fuller
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue byzek
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue - Flowlabel us… Rémi Després
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Pekka Savola
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Hesham Soliman
- [lisp] Flow label collision [Flow label redux [Re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Flow label collision [Flow label redux… Pekka Savola
- Re: [lisp] Flow label collision [Flow label redux… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label collision [Flow label redux… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Shane Amante
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… David Malone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Francis Dupont
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksu… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] IPv6 UDP checksum issue Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Flow label redux sthaug