Re: [lisp] Rechartering Thread 2: From Experimental to ST: these are a bunch of RFC that may be considered

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Tue, 14 March 2023 19:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Rechartering Thread 2: From Experimental to ST: these are a bunch of RFC that may be considered
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> Hi LISP WG,
> 
> As for the subject, this email starts the discussion about: From Experimental to ST: these are a bunch of RFC that may be considered to move ST
> 
> There are a few experimental RFCs which is worth to be considered to be moved to standard track (if we have documented deployment experience), namely:
> 
> RFC 6832: Interworking between Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) and Non-LISP Sites
> RFC 8060: LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) [This is largely used and may be merged with 9306]
> RFC 8111: Locator/ID Separation Protocol Delegated Database Tree (LISP-DDT) [The only scalable Mapping System so far…..] 

Agree.

> Multicast can be another one work item. 
> RFC 6831: The Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) for Multicast Environments
> RFC 8378: Signal-Free Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Multicast 

The new draft that Prasad submitted this week makes it a trio with the above to. It addresses how to mix the functionality of 6831 and 8378 when there is a mix of native multicast and non-native multicast in the underlay.

Dino

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> Please send us back your thoughts.
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> 
> Padma and Luigi
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