Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external review
Dow Street <dow.street@linquest.com> Mon, 30 March 2009 04:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external review
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On Mar 29, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to present the following revised charter to the community > (and with Jari's approval) to the IESG for review. This charter > represents discussion on the LISP list and in the LISP session at IETF > 74. > > > > > The IAB's October 2006 workshop on Routing and Addressing Workshop > (RFC > 4984) rekindled interest in scalable routing and addressing > architectures > for the Internet. Among the many issues driving this renewed > interest are > concerns about the scalability of the routing system and the impending > exhaustion of the IPv4 address space. Since the IAB workshop, several > proposals have emerged which attempt to address the concerns expressed > there and elsewhere. In general, these proposals are based on the > "Locator/Identifier separation". > > The basic idea behind the separation that the Internet architecture > combines two functions, Routing Locators, (where you are attached to > the network) and Identifiers (who you are) in one number > space: The IP address. I don't think the preceding lines form a sentence. Is there an "is" missing? Alternatively, here is possible substitute: Locator/Identifier separation approaches are rooted in the premise that the current Internet architecture often uses a single IP address (i.e. name) for two distinctly different roles: Routing Locators (which describe "where" you are attached to the network) and Identifiers (which describe "who" you are) > Proponents of the separation architecture > postulate that splitting these functions apart will yield several > advantages, including improved scalability for the routing system. > The separation aims to decouple locators and identifiers, thus > allowing > for efficient aggregation of the routing locator space and providing > persistent identifiers in the identifier space. > > LISP supports the separation of the Internet address space following a > network-based map-and-encapsulate scheme (RFC 1955). In LISP, both > identifiers and locators are IP addresses. In LISP, identifiers are > composed of two parts: a "global" portion that uniquely identifies a > particular site and a "local" portion that identifies an interface > within a site. The "local" portion may be subdivided to identify a > particular network within the site. For a given identifier, LISP maps > the "global" portion of the identifier into a set of locators that can > be used by de-capsulation devices to reach the identified interface; > as a consequence a host would > typically change identifiers when it moves from one site to another or > whenever it moves from one subnet to another within an > site. Typically, the same IP address will not be used as an identifier > and locator in LISP. > > LISP requires no changes to end-systems or to most routers. LISP aims > for an incrementally deployable protocol. > > A number of other approaches are being looked at in parallel in > the IRTF and IETF. At this time, these proposals are at an early > stage. > All proposals (including LISP) have potentially harmful side-effects > to > Internet traffic carried by the involved routers, have parts where > deployment incentives may be lacking, and are NOT RECOMMENDED for > deployment beyond experimental situations at this stage. Many of the > proposals have components (such as the EID-to-RLOC mapping system) > where > it is not yet known what kind of design alternative is the best one > among > many. > > However, despite these issues it would be valuable to write > concrete protocol specifications and develop implementations that > can be > used to understand the characteristics of these designs. The LISP WG > is > chartered to work on the LISP base protocol (draft-farinacci- > lisp-12.txt), > the LISP+ALT mapping system (draft-fuller-lisp-alt-05.txt), LISP > Interworking (draft-lewis-lisp-interworking-02.txt), LISP Map Server > (draft-fuller-lisp-ms-00.txt), and LISP multicast > (draft-farinacci-lisp-multicast-01.txt) for these purposes, with the > given > drafts as a starting point. > The working group will encourage and support > interoperable LISP implementations as well as defining requirements > for > alternate mapping systems. The Working Group will also develop > security > profiles for the ALT and/or other mapping systems. > > It is expected that the results of specifying, implementing, and > testing LISP will be fed to the general efforts at the IETF and IRTF > (e.g., the Routing Research Group) that attempts to understand which > type of a solution is optimal. The LISP WG is NOT chartered to develop > the final or standard solution for solving the routing scalability > problem. Its specifications are Experimental and labeled with accurate > disclaimers about their limitations and not fully understood > implications for Internet traffic. In addition, as these issues are > understood, the working group will analyze and document the > implications of LISP on Internet traffic, applications, routers, and > security. This analysis will explain what role LISP can play in > scalable routing. The analysis should also look at scalability and > levels of state required for encapsulation, decapsulation, liveness, > and so on (draft-meyer-loc-id-implications) as well as the > manageability and operability of LISP. > > Goals and Milestones: > > Mar 2010 Submit base LISP specification to the IESG as Experimental > > Mar 2010 Submit base ALT specification to the IESG as Experimental > > Mar 2010 Submit the LISP Interworking specification to the IESG as > Experimental > > June 2010 Submit the LISP Map Server specification to the IESG as > Experimental > > June 2010 Submit Recommendations for Securing the LISP Mapping > System to > the IESG as Experimental > > Jul 2010 Submit LISP for Multicast Environments to the IESG as > Experimental > > Dec 2010 Submit a preliminary analysis as Informational > > Dec 2010 Re-charter or close. > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp
- [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external review Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Dow Street
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Damien Saucez
- [lisp] LISP MTU Handling Templin, Fred L
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Michael Menth
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Sam Hartman
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Michael Menth
- Re: [lisp] LISP: update to charter in external re… Sam Hartman