Re: [lisp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-05.txt - Decoupling

Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Sat, 11 October 2014 22:54 UTC

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From: Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" <darlewis@cisco.com>, Alberto Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu>, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>, Florin Coras <fcoras@ac.upc.edu>, Damien Saucez <damien.saucez@inria.fr>, "lisp@ietf.org" <lisp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lisp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-05.txt - Decoupling
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Folks,

Thanks for the good dialog regarding "decoupling" and "isolation". So far, I glean the following from the email thread:

- LISP decouples the forwarding and control plane, so draft-ietf-lisp-introduction is correct
- LISP does not isolate the control plane from the forwarding plane, so RFC 6830 is also correct

Because both statements are correct and architecturally significant, they *both* should appear in Section 2.1 of draft-ietf-lisp-introduction. Ideally, these two statements should be juxtaposed to one another in order to highlight the difference between "isolation" and "decoupling".

Each statement should include:
	1)  A title (i.e., Decoupled data and control-plane, Non-isolation between data and control plane)
	2)  A sentence or two explaining what it means to be decoupled or non-isolated
	3) A cost/benefit statement

                                                                                      Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lisp [mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Darrel Lewis
> (darlewis)
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 2:07 PM
> To: Alberto Rodriguez-Natal
> Cc: Damien Saucez; lisp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [lisp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-05.txt - Decoupling
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Alberto Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think is fair to state in the intro document that data- and control- planes
> are "decoupled" in LISP because their instantiation may run on different
> boxes, but they are not "isolated" because LISP data plane can trigger control
> plane activity.
> >
> > I think this is an excellent way to describe it.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> -Darrel
> 
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> >
> > Alberto
> >
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